Goodwin/Old Judge tintypes?

[dbrown]

There's an interesting lot in a Hindman auction, a tintype "proof" of a Goodwin & Co. photo of Jocko Flynn.

I was surprised to see it — I thought that all of the Old Judge photos were shot on glass negatives. And a tintype would be a weird way to proof an image in the late 1880s. (There aren't any tins in the Goodwin book.)

(I see on ebay there's another tintype "proof" of a different Flynn pose, in much worse condition.)

Are these "real"? I don't think they're recent reproductions, but I'm skeptical that they were proofs used in making Old Judges. Are there others, besides these two Flynns?

[Leon]

If it is an original tintype the wording should be backwards. It's a later reprint of one, I believe.
The tintype here, with the B's reversed, is an example.
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[dbrown]

Yeah, definitely not shot as a tintype originally.

You could make a contact print from a glass neg onto a tintype — as a "proof." I don't think that was a common practice in any type of publishing, I've never seen it. So the origin of these tins is still mysterious.

[oldjudge]

I do not believe that it is period