1900 Pirates team photo with unknown origin.

[Brian Van Horn]

For everyone especially fellow Pirate fans. A 1900 team photo with unknown origin. Definitely not from a magazine or newspaper. Also, there are five guys in the back row, the back lists six and the names on the front which are an original part of the photo are so faded you can't make them out. Not for sale and no I did not pay the price on the frame.

[jingram058]

I don't the first thing about it, other than the fact that it's way cool! Wagner, Leach, Tannehill for starters.

[Brian Van Horn]

James,

Thank you. Also, don't forget Clarke and Chesbro in the back row.

[Rhotchkiss]

Brian, I own this type 1 photo cabinet (recently consigned to Memory Lane). It’s the same pic. Here is the write up from the REA auction I bought it in. Maybe this helps. Whatever you posted is most certainly not unique and, based on the asking price, it’s either a copy or something or a total steal. I am thinking the former, as mine doesn’t have all the writing on the front, the left side of yours looks trimmed/short (compare to elbow).

https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...e?itemid=67927

[Brian Van Horn]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Brian, I own this type 1 photo cabinet (recently consigned to Memory Lane). It’s the same pic. Here is the write up from the REA auction I bought it in. Maybe this helps. Whatever you posted is most certainly not unique and, based on the asking price, it’s either a copy or something a total steal. I am thinking the former, as mine doesn’t have all the writing on the front, the left side of yours looks trimmed/short (compare to elbow).

https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...e?itemid=67927

Ryan,

Thank you! Now for the mystery at the bottom. I was able to squeeze my index finger into the frame containing the cabinet and could feel no separation between the nameplate at the bottom and the cabinet.

Again, thank you!

[bcbgcbrcb]

My guess is that it’s an early 1900’s photo, although not produced that year nor the immediate vicinity. The photo was probably retaken with the “nameplate” added to the original, which does not include it.

[Brian Van Horn]

Originally Posted by bcbgcbrcb

My guess is that it’s an early 1900’s photo, although not produced that year nor the immediate vicinity. The photo was probably retaken with the “nameplate” added to the original, which does not include it.

Phil,

Thank you! Much appreciated.

[hcv123]

Did that come from George Ryden?

[Brian Van Horn]

Originally Posted by hcv123

Did that come from George Ryden?

Bingo!

George and I date back to his years on Penn Avenue when you would walk in and a guy operating the elevator would use the hand crank after opening and closing the doors for you. Then there was the Jenkins Arcade. Man, I miss that place. Then the store on Brownsville Rd. I knew George and his then girlfriend. They married in the late 1970s. I found out from him that she passed when I asked about her during one of the last Moon township shows before it moved to Monroeville. His second wife is a very nice lady. All in all 47 years I've known George.

[Brian Van Horn]

Howard,

One bonus from George Ryden which was purchased on a separate occasion. I didn't get it for condition, but because of the original owner. I direct your attention to the second scan. Also, the crack is on the top loader containing the information and not on the case.

Enjoy everyone including fellow Pirates fans.

[JollyElm]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Brian, I own this type 1 photo cabinet (recently consigned to Memory Lane). It’s the same pic. Here is the write up from the REA auction I bought it in. Maybe this helps. Whatever you posted is most certainly not unique and, based on the asking price, it’s either a copy or something or a total steal. I am thinking the former, as mine doesn’t have all the writing on the front, the left side of yours looks trimmed/short (compare to elbow).

https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...e?itemid=67927

FYI: Not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet, but the photographs aren't the same. What jumps out immediately is the man dressed in dark clothes in back. His head is oriented differently than the OP's pic.

[Brian Van Horn]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

FYI: Not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet, but the photographs aren't the same. What jumps out immediately is the man dressed in dark clothes in back. His head is oriented differently than the OP's pic.

Darren,

GOOD OBSERVATION! Thank you.

[Brian Van Horn]

Also, McCreery in the middle row who is a diagonally down to the left of Clarke has changed from looking to the left in the cabinet that was auctioned to looking to the right in the one I own.

[Brian Van Horn]

Cabinet measures 9 1/2 by 8. Obviously, no mount.