E121 Series of 80 **MASTER SET HELP REQUEST**

[rhettyeakley]

I have long been tracking a master checklist of the different backs (similar to the extensive work that has been done with the T206 set.) I have checklisted the players found with the (4) different backs and am willing to share that information in an effort to potentially add subjects that may very well be in your collections, the other E121 thread where the poster showed his Sam Rice with Type 2 back inspired me (Thanks, Bill T.)

**IF YOU HAVE ANY CARDS NOT LISTED IN THE BELOW LISTS WITH THAT BACK PLAESE POST FRONT/BACK SCANS AND I'LL ADD THEM TO THE MASTER CHECKLIST**

Here are the checklists:

Type 2: First Line Ends at "eighty"

JIM BAGBY Cleveland Americans
FRANK BAKER New York Americans
DAVE BANCROFT (Leaping) New York Nationals
GEORGE BURNS Cleveland Americans
GEO. J. BURNS New York Nationals
CECIL CAUSEY New York Nationals
TY COBB ("Mgr." on front) Detroit Americans
EDDIE COLLINS Chicago Americans
"RIP" COLLINS New York Americans
JAKE DAUBERT Cincinnati Nationals
CHARLES DEAL (Light uniform) Chicago Nationals
"PHIL" DOUGLAS New York Nationals
URBAN FABER (White uniform) Chicago Americans
WILLIAM FEWSTER New York Americans
FRANK FRISCH New York Nationals
W. L. GARDNER Cleveland Americans
"MIKE" GONZALEZ New York Nationals
JOHN GRANEY Cleveland Americans
HARRY HARPER New York Americans
WALTER HOLKE (Portrait) Boston Nationals
HARRY HOOPER (no shed in background-left side) Chicago Americans
WAITE HOYT New York Americans
MILLER HUGGINS (Portrait) New York Americans
WM. C. JACOBSON St. Louis Americans
HUGH JENNINGS New York Nationals
GEORGE KELLY New York Nationals
DICK KERR Chicago Americans
BILL KILLEFER (Standing, with bat) Chicago Nationals
"RABBIT" MARANVILLE Pittsburgh Nationals
CARL MAYS (Name correct) New York Americans
JACK McINNIS Boston Americans
M. J. McNALLY New York Americans
EMIL MEUSEL New York Nationals
R. MEUSEL New York Americans
CLYDE MILAN Washington Americans
ELMER MILLER New York Americans
ARTHUR NEHF New York Nationals
STEVE O'NEILL Cleveland Americans
ROGER PECKINPAUGH (Name Correct) New York Americans
JEFF PFEFFER St. Louis Nationals
WALTER PIPP New York Americans
JACK QUINN New York Americans
JOHN RAWLINGS New York Nationals
E. C. RICE Washington Americans
EPPA RIXEY, Jr. Cincinnati Nationals
ROBERT ROTH New York Americans
ED. ROUSH Cincinnati Nationals
GEORGE RUTH New York Americans
"BILL" RYAN New York Nationals
"SLIM" SALLEE (End of throw, no ball) New York Nationals
WALTER SCHANG New York Americans
ROBERT SHAWKEY New York Americans
"PAT" SHEA New York Nationals
EARL SMITH New York Nationals
FRANK SNYDER New York Nationals
TRIS SPEAKER (Large Projection-Mgr.) Cleveland Americans
MILTON STOCK St. Louis Nationals
AMOS STRUNK Chicago Americans
ZEB TERRY Chicago Nationals
CHESTER THOMAS Cleveland Americans
FRED TONEY (Foot in air-with trees in background) New York Nationals
BOB VEACH (Hand in air) Detroit Americans
AARON WARD New York Americans
ZACH WHEAT Brooklyn Nationals
IVY B. WINGO Cincinnati Nationals


Type 3: Last Line has Serif Font

DAVE BANCROFT (Leaping) New York Nationals
MAX CAREY (Batting) Pittsburgh Nationals
CECIL CAUSEY New York Nationals
EDDIE COLLINS Chicago Americans
"RIP" COLLINS New York Americans
JAKE DAUBERT Cincinnati Nationals
CHARLES DEAL (Light uniform) Chicago Nationals
WILLIAM DOAK St. Louis Nationals
URBAN FABER (White uniform) Chicago Americans
WILLIAM FEWSTER New York Americans
FRANK FRISCH New York Nationals
W. L. GARDNER Cleveland Americans
ALEXANDER GASTON New York Nationals **thus Far ONLY found with this back**
HARRY HEILMAN Detroit Americans
WALTER HOLKE (Portrait) Boston Nationals
WAITE HOYT New York Americans
MILLER HUGGINS (Portrait) New York Americans
JOE JUDGE Washington Americans
DICK KERR Chicago Americans
BILL KILLEFER (Standing, with bat) Chicago Nationals
AL MAMAUX Brooklyn Nationals
CARL MAYS (Name correct) New York Americans
JOHN McGRAW New York Nationals
ELMER MILLER New York Americans
ARTHUR NEHF New York Nationals
JEFF PFEFFER St. Louis Nationals
JACK QUINN New York Americans
JOHN RAWLINGS New York Nationals
TOM ROGERS New York Americans **thus Far ONLY found with this back**
GEORGE RUTH New York Americans
HANK SEVEREID St. Louis Americans
"PAT" SHEA New York Nationals
FRED TONEY (Foot in air-with trees in background) New York Nationals
OSCAR VITT Boston Americans
AARON WARD New York Americans
GEORGE WHITTED Pittsburgh Nationals
IVY B. WINGO Cincinnati Nationals
"PEP" YOUNG (Batting) Detroit Americans



Type 4: First Line Condensed and ends with "eighty of the"

HARRY HOOPER (with shed in background-left side) Chicago Americans
WALTER JOHNSON (Hands chest) Washington Americans
JOE JUDGE (Bat shoulder) Washington Americans
LEE MEADOWS Philadelphia Nationals **thus Far ONLY found with this back**
WALTER PIPP New York Americans
RAY SCHALK Chicago Americans
GEORGE SISLER (Throwing) St. Louis Americans
W. WAMBSGANSS Cleveland Americans

[MMarvelli]

E121(80) Carey, Max (bat) F+B.jpg

[rhettyeakley]

Thanks Mark, Max Carey (Batting) Type 3 has been added to the list above!

Keep 'em coming!

[old-baseball]

Type 4 Hooper


Type 2 Hoyt


Type 3 Mays

[rhettyeakley]

Kevin, great additions to the checklist, they have been added to the above tally. Anyone else?

[sreader3]

Rhett,

Thanks for this checklist. This is an enormous help to all of us who are interested in E121-80.

If you could add the working Type 1 normal back and Type 1 reverse back checklists for the sake of completeness it would be very much appreciated.

Also, I have noticed over the years that certain subjects exist with or without a dash between the position and team in the bottom line of the caption.

Here is an example without dash:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1921-E121-Am...item5af8fe67f5

and another:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1921-E121-80...item2c6f0b4703

Have you tracked that by any chance?

Thanks.

Scot Reader

[edhans]

Here's a Gleason with a reversed back.

http://t206.monkberry.com/e121.html

[h2oya311]

I recently noticed that Pep Young can be shown as:

(1) "Pep" Young
(2) Pep" Young

where the second variation is missing the leading ".

I have Young w/o the leading ", shown below:

[rhettyeakley]

Derek, you have a good eye!

I have known about the variation for a little while and have one of each. I believe it is a true variation (just hadn't advertised it as such yet as it took me some time to find the version missing the first ") as I have found multiple copies of each. The version with both of the quotes around the name is MUCH easier to find. The "Pep" Young I have with a Type 3 back has the corrected two "" around the name.

Also cementing the fact that it is a legit variation is that I have found both one " and two "" in the W575-1 set as well (blank backed E121 cards), also I have seen a Holsum Bread card with the one "

It would appear that at the beginning of the E121-80 print run the first " was missing or lost and was subsequently "fixed". JUST FYI: Both have the Type 1 regular back.

[rhettyeakley]

Originally Posted by sreader3

Rhett,

Thanks for this checklist. This is an enormous help to all of us who are interested in E121-80.

If you could add the working Type 1 normal back and Type 1 reverse back checklists for the sake of completeness it would be very much appreciated.

Also, I have noticed over the years that certain subjects exist with or without a dash between the position and team in the bottom line of the caption.

Here is an example without dash:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1921-E121-Am...item5af8fe67f5


and another:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1921-E121-80...item2c6f0b4703

Have you tracked that by any chance?

Thanks.

Scot Reader

Scot,

It will take me a bit to get the Regular Type 1 checklist together but I can do that if there is demand for it. I have never bothered cataloging the reverse Type 1 back as I don't consider it a new back or anything just a printing variation within the Type 1 set, Type 3 cards are also found with a reverse back by the way.

About the dash-no dash thing... I do keep track it but only when a single player is found with both versions. For example every Duffy Lewis I have ever seen is missing the "-" but would be very interested in a Duffy Lewis that had one as that would be considered by me (and probably others) to be a new variation. Below is a relatively new discovery that features a George Whitted both "with" and "without" the Dash line...this one is a true variation within the master set. FYI: Both have the Type 1 regular backs.

[rhettyeakley]

I put together a Type 1 list...

GROVER ALEXANDER (Arm forward) Chicago Nationals
JIM BAGBY Cleveland Americans
J. FRANKLIN BAKER New York Americans
DAVE BANCROFT (Batting) New York Nationals
DAVE BANCROFT (Leaping) New York Nationals
PING BODIE New York Americans
GEORGE BURNS Cleveland Americans
GEO. J. BURNS New York Nationals
OWEN BUSH Detroit Americans
MAX CAREY (Batting) Pittsburgh Nationals
MAX CAREY (Hands hips) Pittsburgh Nationals
TY COBB (Manager) Detroit Americans
TY COBB (Mgr.) Detroit Americans
EDDIE COLLINS Chicago Americans
JAKE DAUBERT Cincinnati Nationals
GEORGE DAUSS (Regular block name on front) Detroit Americans
GEORGE DAUSS (Serif name on front) Detroit Americans
CHARLES DEAL (Dark uniform) Chicago Nationals
CHARLES DEAL (Light uniform) Chicago Nationals
WILLIAM DOAK St. Louis Nationals
BILL DONOVAN Philadelphia Nationals
JOHNNY EVERS (Manager) Chicago Nationals
JOHNNY EVERS (Mgr.) Chicago Nationals
URBAN FABER (Black uniform) Chicago Americans
URBAN FABER (White uniform) Chicago Americans
EDDIE FOSTER Boston Americans
W. L. GARDNER Cleveland Americans
"KID" GLEASON Chicago Americans
HANK GOWDY Boston Nationals
JOHN GRANEY Cleveland Americans
TOM GRIFFITH Brooklyn Nationals
HEINIE GROH Cincinnati Nationals
HARRY HEILMAN (Name incorr) Detroit Americans
WALTER HOLKE (Portrait) Boston Nationals
WALTER HOLKE (Throwing) Boston Nationals
CHARLES HOLLACHER Chicago Nationals
HARRY HOOPER (w/ shed in background) Chicago Americans
HARRY HOOPER (no shed) Chicago Americans
ROGERS HORNSBY (Bat on Shoulder) St. Louis Nationals
WM. C. JACOBSON St. Louis Americans
HUGH JENNINGS New York Nationals
WALTER JOHNSON (Hands chest) Washington Americans
WALTER JOHNSON (Throwing) Washington Americans
JAMES JOHNSTON Brooklyn Nationals
JOE JUDGE Washington Americans
GEORGE KELLY New York Nationals
DICK KERR Chicago Americans
P. J. KILDUFF Brooklyn Nationals
BILL KILLEFER (Name spelled correctly) Chicago Nationals
JOHN LAVAN St. Louis Nationals
"NEMO" LEIBOLD Boston Americans
DUFFY LEWIS Washington Americans
AL MAMAUX Brooklyn Nationals
"RABBIT" MARANVILLE Pittsburgh Nationals
CARL MAY (Name incorrect) New York Americans
CARL MAYS (Name correct) New York Americans
JOHN McGRAW (Standing side view) New York Nationals
JACK McINNIS Boston Americans
CLYDE MILAN Washington Americans
OTTO MILLER Brooklyn Nationals
GUY MORTON Cleveland Americans
EDDIE MURPHY Chicago Americans
"HY" MYERS Brooklyn Nationals
STEVE O'NEILL Cleveland Americans
ROGER PECKINBAUGH (Name incorr.) New York Americans
JEFF PFEFFER Brooklyn Nationals
JEFF PFEFFER St. Louis Nationals
WALTER PIPP New York Americans
E. C. RICE Washington Americans
EPPA RIXEY, Jr. Cincinnati Nationals
ED. ROUSH (C.F. on front) Cincinnati Nationals
BABE RUTH New York Americans
"BABE" RUTH New York Americans
"SLIM" SALLEE New York Nationals
RAY SCHALK Chicago Americans
WALTER SCHANG New York Americans
FERD SCHUPP St. Louis Nationals
EVERETT SCOTT Boston Americans
HANK SEVEREID St. Louis Americans
GEORGE SISLER (Batting) St. Louis Americans
GEORGE SISLER (Throwing) St. Louis Americans
TRIS SPEAKER (Manager) Cleveland Americans
TRIS SPEAKER (Mgr.) Cleveland Americans
MILTON STOCK St. Louis Nationals
AMOS STRUNK Chicago Americans
ZEB TERRY Chicago Nationals
CHESTER THOMAS Cleveland Americans
FRED TONEY (Feet on ground-E135) New York Nationals
FRED TONEY (Foot in air-with trees) New York Nationals
GEORGE TYLER Chicago Nationals
JIM VAUGHN (Throwing, dark cap) Chicago Nationals
JIM VAUGHN (Throwing, lighter cap, non-E135) Chicago Nationals
BOB VEACH (Arms folded) Detroit Americans
BOB VEACH (Hand in air) Detroit Americans
OSCAR VITT Boston Americans
W. WAMBSGANSS Cleveland Americans
ZACH WHEAT Brooklyn Nationals
GEORGE WHITTED (Dash on front) Pittsburgh Nationals
GEORGE WHITTED (No Dash on front) Pittsburgh Nationals
FRED WILLIAMS Philadelphia Nationals
IVY B. WINGO Cincinnati Nationals
JOE WOOD (R.F. on front) Cleveland Americans
JOE WOOD (F. on front) Cleveland Americans
"PEP" YOUNG (Both quotation marks around first name) Detroit Americans
PEP" YOUNG (Missing first quotation marks around first name) Detroit Americans


I have not confirmed the following as existing yet:
BILL KILLIFER (Name mispelled) Chicago Nationals
ED. ROUSH (L.F. on front) Cincinnati Nationals

[sreader3]

Thank you Rhett!

[brianp-beme]

Thanks Rhett for all the work...now I have to put my printer to work!

Brian

[sreader3]

Here is a list of the E121-80 Type 3s from the recent major eBay sale. By my count, the sale included 1 card (O'Leary) that is a new addition to the set checklist and 35 other cards that are new additions to the Type 3 checklist. Not to mention that the sale also included copies of Gaston and Rogers which are only confirmed with Type 3. Epic.

*New to Type 3 confirmed checklist
**New to E121-80 confirmed checklist

JIM BAGBY* Cleveland Americans
FRANK BAKER* New York Americans
GEORGE BURNS* Cleveland Americans
GEO. J. BURNS* New York Nationals
MAX CAREY (Batting) Pittsburgh Nationals
CECIL CAUSEY New York Nationals
EDDIE COLLINS Chicago Americans
"RIP" COLLINS New York Americans
JAKE DAUBERT Cincinnati Nationals
GEORGE DAUSS (Regular block name on front)* Detroit Americans
CHARLES DEAL (Light uniform) Chicago Nationals
WILLIAM DOAK St. Louis Nationals
URBAN FABER (White uniform) Chicago Americans
WILLIAM FEWSTER New York Americans
FRANK FRISCH New York Nationals
ALEXANDER GASTON New York Nationals
"KID" GLEASON* Chicago Americans
"MIKE" GONZALEZ* New York Nationals
HANK GOWDY* Boston Nationals
TOM GRIFFITH* Brooklyn Nationals
HEINIE GROH* Cincinnati Nationals
HARRY HARPER* New York Americans
WALTER HOLKE (Portrait) Boston Nationals
HARRY HOOPER (no shed in background-left side)* Chicago Americans
WAITE HOYT New York Americans
MILLER HUGGINS (Portrait) New York Americans
HUGH JENNINGS* New York Nationals
WALTER JOHNSON (Throwing)* Washington Americans
JAMES JOHNSTON* Brooklyn Nationals
JOE JUDGE Washington Americans
DICK KERR Chicago Americans
P. J. KILDUFF* Brooklyn Nationals
JOHN LAVAN* St. Louis Nationals
AL MAMAUX Brooklyn Nationals
CARL MAYS (Name correct) New York Americans
JOHN McGRAW New York Nationals
JACK McINNIS* Boston Americans
M. J. McNALLY* New York Americans
EMIL MEUSEL* New York Nationals
R. MEUSEL* New York Americans
ELMER MILLER New York Americans
ARTHUR NEHF New York Nationals
CHAS. O’LEARY** New York Americans
JEFF PFEFFER St. Louis Nationals
WALTER PIPP* New York Americans
JACK QUINN New York Americans
TOM ROGERS New York Americans
ROBERT ROTH* New York Americans
"BILL" RYAN* New York Nationals
WALTER SCHANG* New York Americans
FERD SCHUPP* St. Louis Nationals
HANK SEVEREID St. Louis Americans
ROBERT SHAWKEY* New York Americans
"PAT" SHEA New York Nationals
GEORGE SISLER (Batting)* St. Louis Americans
EARL SMITH* New York Nationals
AMOS STRUNK* Chicago Americans
ZEB TERRY* Chicago Nationals
CHESTER THOMAS* Cleveland Americans
FRED TONEY (Foot in air-with trees in background) New York Nationals
BOB VEACH (Hand in air)* Detroit Americans
OSCAR VITT Boston Americans
W. WAMBSGANSS* Cleveland Americans
AARON WARD New York Americans
IVY B. WINGO Cincinnati Nationals
JOE WOOD (R.F. on front)* Cleveland Americans
"PEP" YOUNG (Batting) Detroit Americans

[MMarvelli]

If anyone is updating the master list, I didnt see Clyde Milan Type 3 on Rhett or Scot's lists. (It was not picked up in the recent horde release)


E121(80) Milan, Clyde (cropped)(F+B).jpg

[rhettyeakley]

Due to the recent findings I guess it is time to update the list a bit so here goes my current "confirmed" lists (from my spreadsheet)...

"---" before name means NEW Addition to the list I had made above


Type 2: First Line Ends at "eighty"

JIM BAGBY Cleveland Americans
FRANK BAKER New York Americans
DAVE BANCROFT (Leaping) New York Nationals
GEORGE BURNS Cleveland Americans
GEO. J. BURNS New York Nationals
CECIL CAUSEY New York Nationals
TY COBB ("Mgr." on front) Detroit Americans
EDDIE COLLINS Chicago Americans
"RIP" COLLINS New York Americans
JAKE DAUBERT Cincinnati Nationals
CHARLES DEAL (Light uniform) Chicago Nationals
"PHIL" DOUGLAS New York Nationals **thus Far ONLY found with this back**
URBAN FABER (White uniform) Chicago Americans
WILLIAM FEWSTER New York Americans
FRANK FRISCH New York Nationals
W. L. GARDNER Cleveland Americans
"MIKE" GONZALEZ New York Nationals
JOHN GRANEY Cleveland Americans
---HEINIE GROH Cincinnati Nationals
HARRY HARPER New York Americans
WALTER HOLKE (Portrait) Boston Nationals
HARRY HOOPER (no shed in background-left side) Chicago Americans
---ROGERS HORNSBY St. Louis Nationals
WAITE HOYT New York Americans
MILLER HUGGINS (Portrait) New York Americans
WM. C. JACOBSON St. Louis Americans
HUGH JENNINGS New York Nationals
---WALTER JOHNSON (Throwing) Washington Americans
---JOE JUDGE Washington Americans
GEORGE KELLY New York Nationals
DICK KERR Chicago Americans
BILL KILLEFER (Standing, with bat) Chicago Nationals
"RABBIT" MARANVILLE Pittsburgh Nationals
CARL MAYS (Name correct) New York Americans
JACK McINNIS Boston Americans
M. J. McNALLY New York Americans
EMIL MEUSEL New York Nationals
R. MEUSEL New York Americans
CLYDE MILAN Washington Americans
ELMER MILLER New York Americans
ARTHUR NEHF New York Nationals
STEVE O'NEILL Cleveland Americans
ROGER PECKINPAUGH (Name Correct) New York Americans **thus Far ONLY found with this back**
JEFF PFEFFER St. Louis Nationals
WALTER PIPP New York Americans
JACK QUINN New York Americans
JOHN RAWLINGS New York Nationals
E. C. RICE Washington Americans
EPPA RIXEY, Jr. Cincinnati Nationals
ROBERT ROTH New York Americans
ED. ROUSH (C.F. on front) Cincinnati Nationals
GEORGE RUTH New York Americans
"BILL" RYAN New York Nationals
"SLIM" SALLEE (End of throw, no ball- non E135 pose) New York Nationals **thus Far ONLY found with this back**
WALTER SCHANG New York Americans
ROBERT SHAWKEY New York Americans
"PAT" SHEA New York Nationals
EARL SMITH New York Nationals
FRANK SNYDER New York Nationals **thus Far ONLY found with this back**
TRIS SPEAKER (Large Projection-Mgr. on front) Cleveland Americans
MILTON STOCK St. Louis Nationals
AMOS STRUNK Chicago Americans
ZEB TERRY Chicago Nationals
CHESTER THOMAS Cleveland Americans --I don't see him on my confirmed spreadsheet so I think I listed him above in error (He should be removed unless confirmed)
FRED TONEY (Foot in air-with trees in background) New York Nationals
BOB VEACH (Hand in air) Detroit Americans
AARON WARD New York Americans
ZACH WHEAT Brooklyn Nationals
IVY B. WINGO Cincinnati Nationals


Type 3: Last Line has Serif Font

---JIM BAGBY Cleveland Americans
---FRANK BAKER New York Americans
DAVE BANCROFT (Leaping) New York Nationals
---GEORGE BURNS Cleveland Americans
---GEO. J. BURNS New York Nationals
MAX CAREY (Batting) Pittsburgh Nationals
CECIL CAUSEY New York Nationals
EDDIE COLLINS Chicago Americans
"RIP" COLLINS New York Americans
JAKE DAUBERT Cincinnati Nationals
---GEORGE DAUSS (Regular block name on front) Detroit Americans
CHARLES DEAL (Light uniform) Chicago Nationals
WILLIAM DOAK St. Louis Nationals
URBAN FABER (White uniform) Chicago Americans
WILLIAM FEWSTER New York Americans
FRANK FRISCH New York Nationals
W. L. GARDNER Cleveland Americans
ALEXANDER GASTON New York Nationals **thus Far ONLY found with this back**
---"KID" GLEASON Chicago Americans
---"MIKE" GONZALEZ New York Nationals
---HANK GOWDY Boston Nationals
---TOM GRIFFITH Brooklyn Nationals
---HEINIE GROH Cincinnati Nationals
---HARRY HARPER New York Americans
HARRY HEILMAN Detroit Americans
WALTER HOLKE (Portrait) Boston Nationals
---HARRY HOOPER (no shed in background-left side) Chicago Americans
WAITE HOYT New York Americans
MILLER HUGGINS (Portrait) New York Americans
---HUGH JENNINGS New York Nationals
---WALTER JOHNSON (Throwing) Washington Americans
---JAMES JOHNSTON Brooklyn Nationals
JOE JUDGE Washington Americans
DICK KERR Chicago Americans
---P. J. KILDUFF Brooklyn Nationals
BILL KILLEFER (Standing, with bat) Chicago Nationals
---JOHN LAVAN St. Louis Nationals
AL MAMAUX Brooklyn Nationals
CARL MAYS (Name correct) New York Americans
JOHN McGRAW New York Nationals
---JACK McINNIS Boston Americans
---M. J. McNALLY New York Americans
---EMIL MEUSEL New York Nationals
---R. MEUSEL New York Americans
---CLYDE MILAN Washington Americans
ELMER MILLER New York Americans
ARTHUR NEHF New York Nationals
---CHAS. O’LEARY New York Americans **thus Far ONLY found with this back**
JEFF PFEFFER St. Louis Nationals
---WALTER PIPP New York Americans
JACK QUINN New York Americans
JOHN RAWLINGS New York Nationals
TOM ROGERS New York Americans **thus Far ONLY found with this back**
---ROBERT ROTH New York Americans
GEORGE RUTH New York Americans
---"BILL" RYAN New York Nationals
---WALTER SCHANG New York Americans
---FERD SCHUPP St. Louis Nationals
HANK SEVEREID St. Louis Americans
---ROBERT SHAWKEY New York Americans
"PAT" SHEA New York Nationals
---GEORGE SISLER (Batting) St. Louis Americans
---EARL SMITH New York Nationals
---AMOS STRUNK Chicago Americans
---ZEB TERRY Chicago Nationals
---CHESTER THOMAS Cleveland Americans
FRED TONEY (Foot in air-with trees in background) New York Nationals
---BOB VEACH (Hand in air) Detroit Americans
OSCAR VITT Boston Americans
---W. WAMBSGANSS Cleveland Americans
AARON WARD New York Americans
GEORGE WHITTED (with "--" between position & name) Pittsburgh Nationals
IVY B. WINGO Cincinnati Nationals
---JOE WOOD (R.F. on front) Cleveland Americans
"PEP" YOUNG (Batting) Detroit Americans



Type 4: First Line Condensed and ends with "eighty of the"
HARRY HOOPER (with shed in background-left side) Chicago Americans
WALTER JOHNSON (Hands chest) Washington Americans
---JAMES JOHNSTON Brooklyn Nationals
JOE JUDGE (Bat shoulder) Washington Americans
LEE MEADOWS Philadelphia Nationals **thus Far ONLY found with this back**
WALTER PIPP New York Americans
RAY SCHALK Chicago Americans
GEORGE SISLER (Throwing) St. Louis Americans
W. WAMBSGANSS Cleveland Americans

[sreader3]

Thanks for the update.

[sreader3]

Delete.

[brianp-beme]

Thanks for the update Rhett...E121 series of 80 is certainly the most complex set of the 1920's , and it keeps on dishing up more intrique as time goes on.

Brian

[sreader3]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

Thanks for the update Rhett...E121 series of 80 is certainly the most complex set of the 1920's , and it keeps on dishing up more intrique as time goes on.

Brian

Agreed Brian. I am very tempted to go after the master set . . . but then there is Meadows . . . and now O'Leary!

[old-baseball]

Down side of buying both Meadows and O'Leary (plus Gaston, Frisch, Huggins and a host of others when they all appear so close together) is contemplating what part of your collection you're going to be selling off over the next few months to pay for them.

[kmac32]

You could send O'Leary and Gaston to California for a long vacation. Palm Springs is really quite nice in the winter months compared to where you reside.Kevin Andrews. :-)

[wrapperguy]

Rhett, thanks for doing all this and sharing. I thought the regular set was tough enough, much less the Master Set! Good God!

Sorry to have been on "hobby vacation" and missed the epic sale. Sounds spectacular.

[darwinbulldog]

I have this one. Didn't see it on the master checklist.

[rhettyeakley]

I guess since this thread was referenced today in another thread I would make a new post showing current Type 2-4 checklists. Not a lot has changed since my last update but if you are sitting on any accumulations of these check them out and see if you can fill any gaps...

"---" before name means NEW Addition to the list I had made above


Type 2: First Line Ends at "eighty" (70 DIFF. KNOWN CARDS)

JIM BAGBY Cleveland Americans
FRANK BAKER New York Americans
DAVE BANCROFT (Leaping) New York Nationals
GEORGE BURNS Cleveland Americans
GEO. J. BURNS New York Nationals
CECIL CAUSEY New York Nationals
TY COBB ("Mgr." on front) Detroit Americans
EDDIE COLLINS Chicago Americans
"RIP" COLLINS New York Americans
JAKE DAUBERT Cincinnati Nationals
CHARLES DEAL (Light uniform) Chicago Nationals
"PHIL" DOUGLAS New York Nationals **thus Far ONLY found with this back**
URBAN FABER (White uniform) Chicago Americans
WILLIAM FEWSTER New York Americans
FRANK FRISCH New York Nationals
W. L. GARDNER Cleveland Americans
"MIKE" GONZALEZ New York Nationals
JOHN GRANEY Cleveland Americans
HEINIE GROH Cincinnati Nationals
HARRY HARPER New York Americans
WALTER HOLKE (Portrait) Boston Nationals
HARRY HOOPER (no shed in background-left side) Chicago Americans
ROGERS HORNSBY St. Louis Nationals
WAITE HOYT New York Americans
MILLER HUGGINS (Portrait) New York Americans
WM. C. JACOBSON St. Louis Americans
HUGH JENNINGS New York Nationals
WALTER JOHNSON (Throwing) Washington Americans
JOE JUDGE Washington Americans
GEORGE KELLY New York Nationals
DICK KERR Chicago Americans
BILL KILLEFER (Standing, with bat) Chicago Nationals
"RABBIT" MARANVILLE Pittsburgh Nationals
CARL MAYS (Name correct) New York Americans
JACK McINNIS Boston Americans
M. J. McNALLY New York Americans
EMIL MEUSEL New York Nationals
R. MEUSEL New York Americans
CLYDE MILAN Washington Americans
ELMER MILLER New York Americans
ARTHUR NEHF New York Nationals
STEVE O'NEILL Cleveland Americans
ROGER PECKINPAUGH (Name Correct) New York Americans **thus Far ONLY found with this back**
JEFF PFEFFER St. Louis Nationals
WALTER PIPP New York Americans
JACK QUINN New York Americans
JOHN RAWLINGS New York Nationals
E. C. RICE Washington Americans
EPPA RIXEY, Jr. Cincinnati Nationals
ROBERT ROTH New York Americans
ED. ROUSH (C.F. on front) Cincinnati Nationals
GEORGE RUTH New York Americans
"BILL" RYAN New York Nationals
"SLIM" SALLEE (End of throw, no ball- non E135 pose) New York Nationals **thus Far ONLY found with this back**
---RAY SCHALK (Batting) Chicago Americans
WALTER SCHANG New York Americans
---EVERETT SCOTT Boston Americans
ROBERT SHAWKEY New York Americans
"PAT" SHEA New York Nationals
EARL SMITH New York Nationals
FRANK SNYDER New York Nationals **thus Far ONLY found with this back**
TRIS SPEAKER (Large Projection-Mgr. on front) Cleveland Americans
MILTON STOCK St. Louis Nationals
AMOS STRUNK Chicago Americans
ZEB TERRY Chicago Nationals
FRED TONEY (Foot in air-with trees in background) New York Nationals
BOB VEACH (Hand in air) Detroit Americans
AARON WARD New York Americans
ZACH WHEAT Brooklyn Nationals
IVY B. WINGO Cincinnati Nationals


Type 3: Last Line has Serif Font (75 DIFF. KNOWN CARDS)

JIM BAGBY Cleveland Americans
FRANK BAKER New York Americans
DAVE BANCROFT (Leaping) New York Nationals
GEORGE BURNS Cleveland Americans
GEO. J. BURNS New York Nationals
MAX CAREY (Batting) Pittsburgh Nationals
CECIL CAUSEY New York Nationals
EDDIE COLLINS Chicago Americans
"RIP" COLLINS New York Americans
JAKE DAUBERT Cincinnati Nationals
GEORGE DAUSS (Regular block name on front) Detroit Americans
CHARLES DEAL (Light uniform) Chicago Nationals
WILLIAM DOAK St. Louis Nationals
URBAN FABER (White uniform) Chicago Americans
WILLIAM FEWSTER New York Americans
FRANK FRISCH New York Nationals
W. L. GARDNER Cleveland Americans
ALEXANDER GASTON New York Nationals **thus Far ONLY found with this back**
"KID" GLEASON Chicago Americans
"MIKE" GONZALEZ New York Nationals
HANK GOWDY Boston Nationals
TOM GRIFFITH Brooklyn Nationals
HEINIE GROH Cincinnati Nationals
HARRY HARPER New York Americans
HARRY HEILMAN Detroit Americans
WALTER HOLKE (Portrait) Boston Nationals
HARRY HOOPER (no shed in background-left side) Chicago Americans
WAITE HOYT New York Americans
MILLER HUGGINS (Portrait) New York Americans
HUGH JENNINGS New York Nationals
WALTER JOHNSON (Throwing) Washington Americans
JAMES JOHNSTON Brooklyn Nationals
JOE JUDGE Washington Americans
DICK KERR Chicago Americans
P. J. KILDUFF Brooklyn Nationals
BILL KILLEFER (Standing, with bat) Chicago Nationals
JOHN LAVAN St. Louis Nationals
AL MAMAUX Brooklyn Nationals
CARL MAYS (Name correct) New York Americans
JOHN McGRAW New York Nationals
JACK McINNIS Boston Americans
M. J. McNALLY New York Americans
EMIL MEUSEL New York Nationals
R. MEUSEL New York Americans
CLYDE MILAN Washington Americans
ELMER MILLER New York Americans
ARTHUR NEHF New York Nationals
CHAS. O’LEARY New York Americans **thus Far ONLY found with this back**
JEFF PFEFFER St. Louis Nationals
WALTER PIPP New York Americans
JACK QUINN New York Americans
JOHN RAWLINGS New York Nationals
TOM ROGERS New York Americans **thus Far ONLY found with this back**
ROBERT ROTH New York Americans
GEORGE RUTH New York Americans
"BILL" RYAN New York Nationals
WALTER SCHANG New York Americans
FERD SCHUPP St. Louis Nationals
HANK SEVEREID St. Louis Americans
ROBERT SHAWKEY New York Americans
"PAT" SHEA New York Nationals
GEORGE SISLER (Batting) St. Louis Americans
EARL SMITH New York Nationals
AMOS STRUNK Chicago Americans
ZEB TERRY Chicago Nationals
CHESTER THOMAS Cleveland Americans
FRED TONEY (Foot in air-with trees in background) New York Nationals
BOB VEACH (Hand in air) Detroit Americans
OSCAR VITT Boston Americans
W. WAMBSGANSS Cleveland Americans
AARON WARD New York Americans
GEORGE WHITTED (with "--" between position & name) Pittsburgh Nationals
IVY B. WINGO Cincinnati Nationals
JOE WOOD (R.F. on front) Cleveland Americans
"PEP" YOUNG (Batting) Detroit Americans



Type 4: First Line Condensed and ends with "eighty of the" (9 DIFF. CARDS KNOWN)

HARRY HOOPER (with shed in background-left side) Chicago Americans
WALTER JOHNSON (Hands chest) Washington Americans
JAMES JOHNSTON Brooklyn Nationals
JOE JUDGE (Bat shoulder) Washington Americans
LEE MEADOWS Philadelphia Nationals **thus Far ONLY found with this back**
WALTER PIPP New York Americans
RAY SCHALK Chicago Americans
GEORGE SISLER (Throwing) St. Louis Americans
W. WAMBSGANSS Cleveland Americans

[rhettyeakley]

Here is the regular Type 1 list 106 DIFF. KNOWN CARDS...

GROVER ALEXANDER (Arm forward) Chicago Nationals
JIM BAGBY Cleveland Americans
J. FRANKLIN BAKER New York Americans
DAVE BANCROFT (Batting) New York Nationals
DAVE BANCROFT (Leaping) New York Nationals
PING BODIE New York Americans
GEORGE BURNS Cleveland Americans
GEO. J. BURNS New York Nationals
OWEN BUSH Detroit Americans
MAX CAREY (Batting) Pittsburgh Nationals
MAX CAREY (Hands hips) Pittsburgh Nationals
TY COBB (Manager) Detroit Americans
TY COBB (Mgr.) Detroit Americans
EDDIE COLLINS Chicago Americans
JAKE DAUBERT Cincinnati Nationals
GEORGE DAUSS (Regular block name on front) Detroit Americans
GEORGE DAUSS (Serif name on front) Detroit Americans
CHARLES DEAL (Dark uniform) Chicago Nationals
CHARLES DEAL (Light uniform) Chicago Nationals
WILLIAM DOAK St. Louis Nationals
BILL DONOVAN Philadelphia Nationals
JOHNNY EVERS (Manager) Chicago Nationals
JOHNNY EVERS (Mgr.) Chicago Nationals
URBAN FABER (Black uniform) Chicago Americans
URBAN FABER (White uniform) Chicago Americans
EDDIE FOSTER Boston Americans
W. L. GARDNER Cleveland Americans
"KID" GLEASON Chicago Americans
HANK GOWDY Boston Nationals
JOHN GRANEY Cleveland Americans
TOM GRIFFITH Brooklyn Nationals
HEINIE GROH Cincinnati Nationals
HARRY HEILMAN (Name incorr) Detroit Americans
WALTER HOLKE (Portrait) Boston Nationals
WALTER HOLKE (Throwing) Boston Nationals
CHARLES HOLLACHER Chicago Nationals
HARRY HOOPER (w/ shed in background) Chicago Americans
HARRY HOOPER (no shed) Chicago Americans
ROGERS HORNSBY (Bat on Shoulder) St. Louis Nationals
WM. C. JACOBSON St. Louis Americans
HUGH JENNINGS New York Nationals
WALTER JOHNSON (Hands chest) Washington Americans
WALTER JOHNSON (Throwing) Washington Americans
JAMES JOHNSTON Brooklyn Nationals
JOE JUDGE Washington Americans
GEORGE KELLY New York Nationals
DICK KERR Chicago Americans
P. J. KILDUFF Brooklyn Nationals
BILL KILLEFER (Name spelled correctly) Chicago Nationals
JOHN LAVAN St. Louis Nationals
"NEMO" LEIBOLD Boston Americans
DUFFY LEWIS Washington Americans
AL MAMAUX Brooklyn Nationals
"RABBIT" MARANVILLE Pittsburgh Nationals
CARL MAY (Name incorrect) New York Americans
CARL MAYS (Name correct) New York Americans
JOHN McGRAW (Standing side view) New York Nationals
JACK McINNIS Boston Americans
CLYDE MILAN Washington Americans
OTTO MILLER Brooklyn Nationals
GUY MORTON Cleveland Americans
EDDIE MURPHY Chicago Americans
"HY" MYERS Brooklyn Nationals
STEVE O'NEILL Cleveland Americans
ROGER PECKINBAUGH (Name incorr.) New York Americans
JEFF PFEFFER Brooklyn Nationals
JEFF PFEFFER St. Louis Nationals
WALTER PIPP New York Americans
E. C. RICE Washington Americans
EPPA RIXEY, Jr. Cincinnati Nationals
ED. ROUSH (C.F. on front) Cincinnati Nationals
BABE RUTH New York Americans
"BABE" RUTH New York Americans
"SLIM" SALLEE New York Nationals
RAY SCHALK Chicago Americans
WALTER SCHANG New York Americans
FERD SCHUPP St. Louis Nationals
EVERETT SCOTT Boston Americans
HANK SEVEREID St. Louis Americans
GEORGE SISLER (Batting) St. Louis Americans
GEORGE SISLER (Throwing) St. Louis Americans
TRIS SPEAKER (Manager) Cleveland Americans
TRIS SPEAKER (Mgr.) Cleveland Americans
MILTON STOCK St. Louis Nationals
---AMOS STRUNK (Serif "C" in Chicago on front) Chicago Americans
AMOS STRUNK (Regular block (sanserif) "C" in Chicago on front) Chicago Americans
ZEB TERRY Chicago Nationals
CHESTER THOMAS Cleveland Americans
FRED TONEY (Feet on ground-E135) New York Nationals
FRED TONEY (Foot in air-with trees) New York Nationals
GEORGE TYLER Chicago Nationals
JIM VAUGHN (Throwing, dark cap) Chicago Nationals
JIM VAUGHN (Throwing, lighter cap, non-E135) Chicago Nationals
BOB VEACH (Arms folded) Detroit Americans
BOB VEACH (Hand in air) Detroit Americans
OSCAR VITT Boston Americans
W. WAMBSGANSS Cleveland Americans
ZACH WHEAT Brooklyn Nationals
GEORGE WHITTED (Dash on front) Pittsburgh Nationals
GEORGE WHITTED (No Dash on front) Pittsburgh Nationals
FRED WILLIAMS Philadelphia Nationals
IVY B. WINGO Cincinnati Nationals
JOE WOOD (R.F. on front) Cleveland Americans
JOE WOOD (F. on front) Cleveland Americans
"PEP" YOUNG (Both quotation marks around first name) Detroit Americans
PEP" YOUNG (Missing first quotation marks around first name) Detroit Americans


I have not confirmed the following as existing yet:
BILL KILLIFER (Name mispelled) Chicago Nationals
ED. ROUSH (L.F. on front) Cincinnati Nationals

[VoodooChild]

Hey Rhett,

I have an Everett Scott with a Type 2 back that I didn't see in your list.

Thanks for all of the work you've done with this interesting and under appreciated set.

[rhettyeakley]

Jason, if you have a scan let me look at it. Every card that I have listed has been visualized by me (front and back scans) so I can check caption and everything else to assure we aren't missing anything (I don't anticipate anything new with the Scott but just want to confirm that). Edited to add: I just looked at your Collection Album in the tagline of your posts and saw the Everett Scott type 2. Consider it confirmed!

I appreciate you looking through your stuff, that should bring the Type 2 to 70 different.

We should be getting to end of these lists over the next few years as we start approaching 80 in the type 2 & Type 3 sets (I guess there could be more than 80 in each but not really anticipating the print runs were larger than that.

[edhans]

Terrific work, Rhett. The depth and breadth of your knowledge is truly impressive.

[brewing]

Bringing back an old thread that could be valuable.

I've found sources like the Standard Catalog and TCDB can miss things that an avid collector of the series knows. This thread confirms the lack of a Cobb batting Series 80 and my wallet is grateful.


1. Any updates to this checklist?

2. If anyone has the Veach arms folded Series of 80, I'd love to see a copy.

[brianp-beme]

Rhett's list in this thread is the latest that I know about. There might have been a couple, or a few, new additions that have been identified, but I did not note them. Perhaps Rhett has something to add...


Brian

[obcbobd]

Originally Posted by brewing

Bringing back an old thread that could be valuable.

I've found sources like the Standard Catalog and TCDB can miss things that an avid collector of the series knows. This thread confirms the lack of a Cobb batting Series 80 and my wallet is grateful.


1. Any updates to this checklist?

2. If anyone has the Veach arms folded Series of 80, I'd love to see a copy.

Veach folded, series of 80