Home Addresses of Deadball Era Players

[ronniehatesjazz]

Does anyone know a reference for the home addresses of players from the deadball era to WW2? TTM would obviously be futile but being into baseball and local history I thought it'd be interesting to see where some of the players used to live.

BTW, I live in Cincinnati... less than a mile away from where "Kelly's Killers" played their home games in 1891. Thought it'd be neat to see if any of the players lived nearby.

[Mark17]

I once found an article in an old Minneapolis newspaper that gave the address where Rube Waddell was boarding in 1911. I went there hoping to find an old building where I could imagine Rube walking in and out of the doorway, etc. But it was a vacant lot.

[toppcat]

Maybe work backwards from an older Jack Smalling list?

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

Ancestry.com. Go nuts.

[Casey2296]

I've always had a liking for Harry Hooper, he was a West Coast guy from the beginning, born not far from here in a town that no longer exists, he retired to the town where my office is located, and is buried walking distance from my home in a small church cemetery.

Following his retirement from baseball, Harry Hooper lived in Capitola and opened a real estate firm. He was named player-manager for San Francisco's minor league team in the Pacific Coast League in 1927.

Hooper was appointed postmaster in Capitola in 1933. He held that position for 24 years. He was active in civic affairs through the chamber of commerce and the improvement club. "He was one of Capitola's most prominent local citizens. Whenever something was going on in Capitola from the 1920s to the 1960s, he was involved," local museum curator Frank Perry said.

Hooper was selected to the Baseball Hall of Fame in 1971.

Hooper died at the age of 87 in Santa Cruz, California. He had been healthy enough to attend that summer's Baseball Hall of Fame induction ceremonies and he had gone duck hunting less than a month before he died. Harry Hooper Jr said that Hooper had died of old age. He said that Hooper was the oldest living member of the Hall of Fame before his death.
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[tedzan]

For whatever it is worth, here is a list of the birthplaces of BB players from the top 13 states during the "deadball" era (found in the T206 set)......

1) Pennsylvania - 70 (Jennings, Mathewson, Plank, Wagner)
2) Ohio - 46
3) New York - 44
4) Illinois - 27
5) Massachusetts - 18
6) Missouri - 15
7) Michigan - 13
8) California - 11
9) Wisconsin - 11
10) Indiana - 10
11) Texas - 9
12) Iowa - 8
13) Maryland - 8


TED Z

T206 Reference
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[michael3322]

Originally Posted by tedzan

For whatever it is worth, here is a list of the birthplaces of BB players from the top 13 states during the "deadball" era (found in the T206 set)......

1) Pennsylvania - 70 (Jennings, Mathewson, Plank, Wagner)
2) Ohio - 46
3) New York - 44
4) Illinois - 27
5) Massachusetts - 18
6) Missouri - 15
7) Michigan - 13
8) California - 11
9) Wisconsin - 11
10) Indiana - 10
11) Texas - 9
12) Iowa - 8
13) Maryland - 8


TED Z

T206 Reference
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This is fascinating. Are there specific reasons why so many hail from Pennsylvania? Team location? Teams primarily in Northeast at that time?

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by michael3322

This is fascinating. Are there specific reasons why so many hail from Pennsylvania? Team location? Teams primarily in Northeast at that time?

My guess would be were those were all the industrial population centers at the time.

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by michael3322

This is fascinating. Are there specific reasons why so many hail from Pennsylvania? Team location? Teams primarily in Northeast at that time?

Regarding Pennsylvania....many of the numerous coal-mining regions of this state each had semi-pro Baseball leagues, which developed some really great ballplayers.


TED Z

T206 Reference
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[Michael B]

John J. “Jack” Barry – 171 Maple St., Shrewsbury, MA

Tim Keefe (HOF) – 1653 Cambridge St., Cambridge, MA. He also owned the house next door at 89 Trowbridge Street though the land was really owned by his mother. They are a ten minute walk from Harvard Yard. There is a sign at the corner of Cambridge and Trowbridge for Timothy Keefe Square. Across the street from Cambridge Rindge and Latin High School alma mater of NBAers’ Patrick Ewing and Rumeal Robinson and Olympic gold medalist Charles Jenkins (track) and Medina Dixon (basketball). He also lived at several addresses in Somerville (68 Concord Ave, 52 Springfield St.

George Bignell (Providence Grays 1884) – had interest in a house on Adams St, Taunton, MA unknown street number.

Benjamin Bowcock (1903 St Louis Browns) lived in New Bedford MA, though he may have had interest in land at 215 Canedy St., Fall River which was assessed to his wife Helen. His son Benjamin Jr. died March 23, 2000 and lived at 5 Pleasant St., Fairhaven, MA

William I. ‘Billy’ Burke (Boston Doves, Boston Rustlers 1910-1911) – lived on Monroe Ave., Worcester, MA. Exact number unknown. He bought it in 1940 and sold it in 1964

Frank A. Burrell (NY Giants, Brooklyn Bridegrooms 1891, 1895-97) – 108 High St., Weymouth, MA. His family owned property on this street prior to 1869.

Henry “Buck” Danner (1915 Phil A’s) – lived on Cedar St., Dedham, MA number unknown. Bought this in 1929. He previously lived on Hayes St, Dedham which he sold in 1927.

Ezra Lincoln (1890 CLE Spiders, 1890 Syracuse Stars) – 38 Lincoln St., Taunton, MA

Frank Mahar (1902 Phillies) – 14-16 Aberdeen Rd., Somerville, MA

Patrick Pettee (1891 Louisville Colonels) – 19 Western Ave, Natick, MA

David Pickett (1898 Boston Beaneaters) – Foundry St, Easton, MA unknown number

John Rudderham (1884 Boston Unions) – 111 Warren St, Randolph, MA

While checking out some of those players I discovered one major leaguer born and died in my hometown - Tom Stankard of the 1904 Pittsburgh Pirates. He along with one other deadball era player are buried in the cemetery that was my back yard growing up. It was interesting to find a baseball player from my town. I already knew about several football players (Angelo 'King Kong' Mosca, Fred Smerlas, Mackenzy Bernadeau), hockey players (Dwight Schofield, Jeff Lazaro, Shawn McEachern, Brian Strait, Keith Aucoin), U.S. Open Champion (tennis) and 6 Olympians so nice to add a baseball player. I don't know if any of them outshines Carroll Spinney - Big Bird on Sesame Street also from my town.

[nwobhm]

Originally Posted by michael3322

This is fascinating. Are there specific reasons why so many hail from Pennsylvania? Team location? Teams primarily in Northeast at that time?

FARMING! Both versions.

Look up how many players were from Arkansas circa 1920-1970. Look up the Arkansas population vs US total. Some teams were fielding 2-3 guys from Arkansas. Some games had 4-5 starters from Arkansas. White Sox playing Red Sox in the 50’s for example:

George Kell
Gene Stephens
Ellis Kinder
Sherm Lollar

In the 60’s White Sox playing the Orioles:

Brooks Robinson
Floyd Robinson
Gene Stephens
Tommy Mccraw
Sherm Lollar

In the 34’ WS the Arkansas Dean brothers pitched every St Louis win.

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by michael3322

This is fascinating. Are there specific reasons why so many hail from Pennsylvania? Team location? Teams primarily in Northeast at that time?

Air conditioning not widely deployed in the South yet.

Here's the list of members of House of Representatives by state after each decade's census:
https://www2.census.gov/programs-sur...0-tableC1.xlsx

[T206Collector]

[jmarascojr]

I have always been interested in possibly traveling around to all of Ty Cobb's houses/homes.

I believe most of his childhood homes are gone.
One house he owned down south is now a bed and breakfast or a wedding venue.
And I think one of his houses in Detroit is still around.

He had one out west that was just for sale in the last couple of years too, I think...

[Leon]

Originally Posted by ronniehatesjazz

Does anyone know a reference for the home addresses of players from the deadball era to WW2? TTM would obviously be futile but being into baseball and local history I thought it'd be interesting to see where some of the players used to live.

BTW, I live in Cincinnati... less than a mile away from where "Kelly's Killers" played their home games in 1891. Thought it'd be neat to see if any of the players lived nearby.

There were quite a few addresses in the old hobby publications, if I recall correctly..
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[milkit1]

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[peanuts]

Originally Posted by michael3322

This is fascinating. Are there specific reasons why so many hail from Pennsylvania? Team location? Teams primarily in Northeast at that time?

At that time, Pennsylvania was home to about 10% of the entire US population, second only in total population to New York.
As Ted mentioned, there was a robust semi-pro circuit as a result of the many factory and mine teams.

[Lucas00]

Originally Posted by peanuts

At that time, Pennsylvania was home to about 10% of the entire US population, second only in total population to New York.

As Ted mentioned, there was a robust semi-pro circuit as a result of the many factory and mine teams.

Exactly right, The number of Passionate Local Collectors here is likely second to none. So many people have relatives on one team or another in Pennsylvania.

[DaveW]

Originally Posted by jmarascojr

I have always been interested in possibly traveling around to all of Ty Cobb's houses/

He had one out west that was just for sale in the last couple of years too, I think...

Ty Cobb’s house is in Atherton, California. Atherton is a very
ritzy area. Here’s the description from Redfin:

48 SPENCER Ln,
Atherton, CA 94027
$11,589,704. Redfin Estimate
8 Beds
7.5 Baths
5,017 Sq Ft

Off Market
This home last sold for $5,200,000 on Feb 6, 2012.
About This Home
Spanish estate built in 1929 and home to legendary baseball great Ty Cobb; mostly original detail with wood floors, vintage mosaic tiled baths, brass hardware, remodeled kitchen & butler’s pantry; flexible floor plan with lots of options; enclosed courtyard + terrace with pool and vast lawn; Main house ~5,017sf, apartment & cottage ~2,060sf