PSA and SGC cases cracked without virtually any damage!

[DanP]

I’m only posting to warn everyone to inspect every slab you buy!

I cracked an SGC with a small screwdriver with virtually no visible damage. I did this a few months ago and unfortunately don’t know if it was a new slab. The card was an SGC 8 Jerry Rice.

I just cracked a NEW LABEL PSA slab by just twisting it back and forth (no tools). and the damage was hardly noticeable.

I just received graded cards back from CSG and HGA and will try to crack a card from each. Just a quick inspection, I don’t see how either can be cracked without damage (same as BGS).

Full disclosure: I am a PSA guy. Only because of their resale value. I’m hoping that one of their “competitors” someday really compete with them.

Also, I’m not looking to get into an argument on who is best, just looking to warn the group to be careful! It is way to easy to place a lower grade card in their slabs and resell.

[mrreality68]

Wow thanks for the heads up

Looks a little to easy and a little to clean

[DanP]

One more thing, think of this scenario:

You buy an expensive card on eBay. Looking at scans of the front and the back of the card everything looked fine. You receive the card and notice small damage (see pics below) and suspect a lower graded card was inserted. Let's face it, it's difficult to tell the difference between an 8 and a 10 (at least it is for me). You try and send the card back and the seller claims YOU broke the card out and YOU inserted the lower graded card.

If I wasn't clear in the original post. There is damage on both slabs but very minor and only in one 1/2" - 3/4" location on the slab. The damage is more difficult to detect on the SGC slab.

[bnorth]

Cracking them without damage has always been very easy.

Now putting a card back in them and sealing them is a whole different story. Unless you have a sealer with the correct size mold it is extremely easy to see they have been cracked and resealed.

[DanP]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Cracking them without damage has always been very easy.

Now putting a card back in them and sealing them is a whole different story. Unless you have a sealer with the correct size mold it is extremely easy to see they have been cracked and resealed.

You couldn’t just carefully put super glue around the edges? Actually, when I get back tomorrow I’ll give that a try and send a picture.

[SteveS]

Do you think it would be feasible for the TPGs to take a high-res scan or photo of the card after it's slabbed, and post that in their verification registry? So when you look up the cert# you can see the actual card along with the information. I don't know whether this step would add significantly to cost or time, but it would help prevent certain fraudulent activity like the one described above.

[Oscar_Stanage]

what about this?
the first 3 are the upper left side. the 4th is straight on of the left side. 5 and 6 are of the opposite edge for comparison
5 and 6 are the right side. .

I bought this from Ebay and I did not notice the slab... but looking at the card itself, I thought 8.5 was a bit generous as there is some corner touches and a mark on top border. this seller just posted another 8.5 immediately after, which i thought strange because you just don't see many SGC OPC Gretzkys...

anyway, the frosting looks odd, but I looked at a few cards that I sent in, and this does appear on other cards that I have sent in. so I am wondering if maybe it is just how they seal the case?

[butchie_t]

Originally Posted by DanP

I’m only posting to warn everyone to inspect every slab you buy!

I cracked an SGC with a small screwdriver with virtually no visible damage. I did this a few months ago and unfortunately don’t know if it was a new slab. The card was an SGC 8 Jerry Rice.

Thanks, I will try this method the next time I free a card. I have been using a set of heavy duty wire cutters to snap off the tops of the cases and then prying them apart. It works, but I have to be careful. I like the twist option.

Cheers.