Proebstein123 on ebay

[tdellis]

Is he reputable or dies he shill bid?

[earlywynnfan]

MANY threads on shill bidding on the main page. Maybe not so much that they shill, but they don't seem to stop their consignors from doing it. I've stopped even looking at their stuff.

[bnorth]

Make sure to ask a question or 2 about the item. Allegedly that greatly increases the chances of shill bidding in Probstein123 auctions.

[theshleps]

I have sent a lot of my duplicates to Probstein to save time. Many items I am disappointed with the sale price. Many go for about the right price and occasionally I am very pleased with a higher than expected price (Though not often). I have never done any shill bidding though I suppose nothing would stop me (except my ethics). I'd be stuck paying fees if I won. I've been happy but I wouldn't put it passed unscrupulous folks from doing shill bidding on any auction item. Could do it with any company that takes consignments on ebay. And even in regular auction houses can have friends bid etc. Not sure how much this practice has done to inflate prices.
I hate more those that bid against collectors when there is a decent deal out there and then immediately try to flip items at 2-3x the price putting them out of our hands

[7nohitter]

Recently I've read many posts about submissions to Probstein which have gone missing and for which he has zero accountbility.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan

MANY threads on shill bidding on the main page. Maybe not so much that they shill, but they don't seem to stop their consignors from doing it. I've stopped even looking at their stuff.

If I list an item for sale with Probstein and then ask three of my friends to run up the price, how is Probstein supposed to identify that, much less stop it?

[Scott Garner]

Scammer

[chaddurbin]

Originally Posted by 7nohitter

Recently I've read many posts about submissions to Probstein which have gone missing and for which he has zero accountbility.

where can i find these posts? thanks. i'd have to be real desperate to send stuff to probstein to sell for me.

[earlywynnfan]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

If I list an item for sale with Probstein and then ask three of my friends to run up the price, how is Probstein supposed to identify that, much less stop it?

Seems like you can pull the same crap through any auction house. However, there were numerous threads where obvious shill bidding was pointed out to Probstein, and he did nothing. If that's the kind of dealer you'd prefer to work with, then that tells me a lot about you.

[7nohitter]

Originally Posted by chaddurbin

where can i find these posts? thanks. i'd have to be real desperate to send stuff to probstein to sell for me.

Quan,

Not sure if you're on Blowout...but many 'callout' threads on the Scammers/Problems section including one guy who can't get a response (for months) about his $11K in missing cards.

[perezfan]

In addition to the frequent shilling (and doing nothing to remedy it)...

Probstein has also been alerted to hundreds of altered cards in numbered PSA slabs, which he has sold. He simply does not care and proceeds with the sale, even when confronted with iron-clad evidence. He says it's a PSA problem.

Keep away if you have any ethics whatsoever.

[theshleps]

Thanks guys for informing me of the ethical problems. I do not keep up on this stuff. I never buy from him but as mentioned have used him so great to know as I will search for someone else. Any recommendations??

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by theshleps

Thanks guys for informing me of the ethical problems. I do not keep up on this stuff. I never buy from him but as mentioned have used him so great to know as I will search for someone else. Any recommendations??

PWCC has been getting some very nice cards... perhaps the highest graded assortments eBay has to offer.

Just kidding of course.

I personally like Greg Morris and Sirius. Have made some great additions through both, and have never had an issue with either one. I'm sure other people here will have some great recommendations as well.

[chaddurbin]

Originally Posted by 7nohitter

Quan,

Not sure if you're on Blowout...but many 'callout' threads on the Scammers/Problems section including one guy who can't get a response (for months) about his $11K in missing cards.

thx andrew--just went thru that thread. seems like familiar complaints with him.

i don't consign much but i hear 4SC (4 sharp corners) is reliable...ymmv as always with these consignment services.

[Fballguy]

There was a time...five, ten years ago...when I was doing A LOT of research on sold item prices and more often than not, if Probstein was the seller, his items showed up first if I sorted on "highest first". Always thought that was interesting...

[mightymickof56]

Has anyone got an email from Probstein saying they switched paying consignors from paypal to electronic check? Just got an email asking for my checking information.

[Topnotchsy]

Originally Posted by mightymickof56

Has anyone got an email from Probstein saying they switched paying consignors from paypal to electronic check? Just got an email asking for my checking information.

eBay forced all sellers to switch over the payment method. Same for all sellers.

[clydepepper]

I am happy to say that he blocked me from bidding some years ago and would never tell me why...but, in retrospect, I'm better for it...since then I've seen a lot of complaints about him...karma.

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by Topnotchsy

eBay forced all sellers to switch over the payment method. Same for all sellers.

That's why I switched to BST and my fellow Net54 members to work with.

Thanks again Leon!

[Topnotchsy]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

That's why I switched to BST and my fellow Net54 members to work with.

Thanks again Leon!

I haven't felt the need to change my account over. Meanwhile, I can't list items on eBay. I haven't missed it enough to bother. Same as you, focusing on other platforms when I do look to sell.