Mantle set registry no longer 100%

[sflayank]

Thanks to the new jumbo holder
Dormand 6x9 added
Phillies cigar added
Rawlings premium added both no undershirt and black
Sports heroes sticker added to red section

[swarmee]

https://forums.collectors.com/discus...jumbo-mail-day

Yep, now eligible due to the oversized holders. I'm sure a bunch of new ones will show up this year.

[irv]

Originally Posted by swarmee

https://forums.collectors.com/discus...jumbo-mail-day

Yep, now eligible due to the oversized holders. I'm sure a bunch of new ones will show up this year.

Those new oversized holders are nice but it looks like there is a lot of room for the pics to move around possibly damaging them?

[ls7plus]

I think it's good that it is expanding, just as the definition of what is a card is doing. Remember when Cobb's 1907 postcards weren't considered his rookies?

Best to all,

Larry

[mantlefan]

Originally Posted by irv

Those new oversized holders are nice but it looks like there is a lot of room for the pics to move around possibly damaging them?

Nothing new there. Lots of swimming room in a lot of PSA holders.

[bswhiten]

Chris will no doubt be back at 100%. They came from my pc. Rawlings Advisory Staff and 54 All Star Pack should be added soon too. I agree with Swarmee that more additions are on the way...

They don't move much from what I can tell. You can hit an edge and move it but they stay put for the most part.

I just need to figure out how to store them. All of my other slabs are in binders but the Jumbo slab is 9-3/4"x13-1/4"...huge. And they don't stack well.

[Bestdj777]

Originally Posted by sflayank

Thanks to the new jumbo holder
Dormand 6x9 added
Phillies cigar added
Rawlings premium added both no undershirt and black
Sports heroes sticker added to red section

I was wondering when they’d start using them for cards. I’m assuming you have the Rawlings premium and the sticker? If so, would love to see photos.

I won’t be getting any of my larger stuff graded as the holders make it too hard to store.

[irv]

Originally Posted by mantlefan

Nothing new there. Lots of swimming room in a lot of PSA holders.

Like in your pic, I thought if the card could move around some, they would utilize a plastic bag/sleeve?

[sflayank]

sports heroes sticker toughest
dont know why they put on bottom of registry
regular size holder...just sold it
the other stuff mentioned not too hard to
but population will be low

[sflayank]

All in all
The sports heroes sticker should be in regular registry
It a normal issue although rare
By my calculations there will eventually be
5 rawlings advisory staff photos
2 1964 rawlings premiums..(already added)
1954 all star picture pack
3 yankee picture pack photos
6x9 dormand (already added)
1961 phillies cigar(already added)
That's 13 items....

[AustinMike]

What about the 7 (nice number, ) J.D. McCarthy postcards and the 8 x 10 J.D. McCarthy photo?

And the 2 8 x 10 Holiday Inn photos (one with Maris). Not to mention the Holiday Letterheads (at least 3 that I know of), the napkin, packs of sugar, ...;

Plus the Wonderbread premium photo;

The variation in the 1954 NY Journal card;

The 1954 Sports Illustrated Topps "Card;"

The 1956 Big League Statue card;

The Bat Master premium photo;

The Mickey Mantle's Big League Baseball premium photo;

The Country Kitchen premium photo;

The Denim Jeans label;

The Sports Pix Magazine premium photo;

The 1962 and 1964 Auravision records;

The 1963 Hospital postcard should be added, after I get one of course ;

The Requena photos, one of Mantle and one of Mantle and Maris;

The 1969 Rawlings promo card;

Also, the 9 x 12 Dormand if it's not too big.

Lastly, the one I'd like to see get on the list the most is Mantle's 1951 self-promotion card.

[71buc]

Originally Posted by sflayank

Rawlings premium added

I wonder if they will do the same with the Clemente Master set? I checked and it doesn't appear so at this time. There certainly aren't many of the Clemente Rawlings premiums out there.

[hcv123]

Originally Posted by 71buc

I wonder if they will do the same with the Clemente Master set? I checked and it doesn't appear so at this time. There certainly aren't many of the Clemente Rawlings premiums out there.

I will have to try sending mine in - if I remember correctly I think there might be 2 different ones - 1 B&W and 1 color!

[71buc]

Would love to see the color one...now back to Mr. Mantle

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by 71buc

I wonder if they will do the same with the Clemente Master set? I checked and it doesn't appear so at this time. There certainly aren't many of the Clemente Rawlings premiums out there.

They only add in the cards that they've graded and someone requests to be part of the set. PSA doesn't go out looking for cards to add to registry sets. That's all introduced by the collectors.

[bswhiten]

Mike, my opinions in red...

Originally Posted by AustinMike

What about the 7 (nice number, ) J.D. McCarthy postcards and the 8 x 10 J.D. McCarthy photo?
Doubt PSA will ever grade since tough to pinpoint printed dates & they kept printing into the 70's right?

And the 2 8 x 10 Holiday Inn photos (one with Maris). Not to mention the Holiday Letterheads (at least 3 that I know of), the napkin, packs of sugar, ...;
I can confirm PSA is not slabbing the HI photos. They said not enough catalog info.
I have 4 different letterheads and 2 different envelopes but doubt they would grade. That would be a trip if they slabbed sugar! lol
There are also the 3 different brochures that are cataloged - they might actually slab those since they are 8.5x11 folded.

Plus the Wonderbread premium photo;
Isn’t it larger than 8.5x11?

The variation in the 1954 NY Journal card;
All of them have slight variation w/numbers 😊

The 1954 Sports Illustrated Topps "Card;"
Too many reprints.

The 1956 Big League Statue card;
It’s cataloged so will probably be slabbed at some point.

The Bat Master premium photo;
Probably won’t since almost an ad.

The Mickey Mantle's Big League Baseball premium photo;
Think this will be slabbed in Jumbo.

The Country Kitchen premium photo;
Scarce but if sent in they would slab imo.

The Denim Jeans label;
Doubt it.

The Sports Pix Magazine premium photo;
Think this will be slabbed in Jumbo.

The 1962 and 1964 Auravision records;
Doubt it.

The 1963 Hospital postcard should be added, after I get one of course ;
Already slabbed and red section…at least in Mantle Super set.

The Requena photos, one of Mantle and one of Mantle and Maris;
Think these will be slabbed in Jumbo.

The 1969 Rawlings promo card;
Think they would slab this scarce one if sent in.

Also, the 9 x 12 Dormand if it's not too big.
Too big.

Lastly, the one I'd like to see get on the list the most is Mantle's 1951 self-promotion card.
Agree

I would add:
Equitable sports 8x11, Manny's 8x10, complete Box w/mantle, 5 additional picture pack & action pictures, Topps plaque - Maybe too thick?

Ben

[sflayank]

correct no jd mccarthys
no HI photo
no wonderbread
journal american they should...2 distinct variations
sports illustrated no...reprints galore
big league statue card yes
batmaster no
big league premium photo yes and maybe the long yellow card if it fits
denim jeans no
sportspix yes
auravision yes
requena yes
hospital postcard and sports heroes sticker should go in top section
rawlings 69 yes however in red...post career card
mannyland yes
54 all star 56 57 60 and 68 picture pack photos yes
70 clinic card in red only
and of course mascot dog food
AND MY PERSONAL FAVORITE...LABEL THE COLORS OF ARMOUR COINS.....

[Bestdj777]

Originally Posted by sflayank

correct no jd mccarthys
no HI photo
no wonderbread
journal american they should...2 distinct variations
sports illustrated no...reprints galore
big league statue card yes
batmaster no
big league premium photo yes and maybe the long yellow card if it fits
denim jeans no
sportspix yes
auravision yes
requena yes
hospital postcard and sports heroes sticker should go in top section
rawlings 69 yes however in red...post career card
mannyland yes
54 all star 56 57 60 and 68 picture pack photos yes
70 clinic card in red only
and of course mascot dog food
AND MY PERSONAL FAVORITE...LABEL THE COLORS OF ARMOUR COINS.....

I believe the Hospital Postcard is in red in the super set because the example I requested that they add only graded authentic (they thought it was miscut but I’m fairly certain it was trimmed down). I haven’t requested that they add it to the Master Set yet but will at some point. Mike, if you want to trade your Rawlings for it, let me know!

There are so many items that aren’t in yet that should be, but it’s such a frustrating process trying to get stuff added that I won’t bother anymore.

Agreed re the Armour coins. The 1970 clinic card post dates his career though and probably is better suited for the super set.

[AustinMike]

Thanks for all the replies regarding the Mantles not on the "Master" list. I should mention that I don't participate in the registry, but I just thought since it is a "Master" list, it should include everything that we know of. It even includes items that were not meant to be cut from a box, e.g., the little photo on the top flap of the Transogram box. But yet, items that we've mentioned are not included?

What about the 7 (nice number, ) J.D. McCarthy postcards and the 8 x 10 J.D. McCarthy photo?
Doubt PSA will ever grade since tough to pinpoint printed dates & they kept printing into the 70's right?
Yes, they were printed for a long time. But, the Exhibit postcards were printed for a while. Doesn't PSA list the date as 1947-1966 on Exhibit post cards?

And the 2 8 x 10 Holiday Inn photos (one with Maris). Not to mention the Holiday Letterheads (at least 3 that I know of), the napkin, packs of sugar, ...;
I can confirm PSA is not slabbing the HI photos. They said not enough catalog info.
I have 4 different letterheads and 2 different envelopes but doubt they would grade. That would be a trip if they slabbed sugar! lol
There are also the 3 different brochures that are cataloged - they might actually slab those since they are 8.5x11 folded.
The sugar was kind of tongue in check, but also pointing out the inconsistency of PSA. The packet of sugar I have is not all that thick and might fit in a holder. But even if it doesn't, couldn't a person remove the sugar and have it graded? PSA encourages the destruction (yeah, an over exaggeration) of match books by having all the matches removed so they can be slabbed.

Plus the Wonderbread premium photo;
Isn’t it larger than 8.5x11?
The Wonderbread photo is 5x7.

The 1954 Sports Illustrated Topps "Card;"
Too many reprints.
Isn't that PSA's job - to distinguish between the real deal and reprints/forgeries?

The Bat Master premium photo;
Probably won’t since almost an ad.
The Bat Master photo was a premium found inside the Bat Master product and is no more an ad than the HI premium postcard.
Also, isn't the Bobbin' Head photo actually listed as an ad photo?

The Denim Jeans label;
Doubt it.
These are probably not much different than the HI coasters.

The Sports Pix Magazine premium photo;
Think this will be slabbed in Jumbo.
There are two sizes of these. What is the maximum size PSA will slab? One is 8x10 which I gather they would slab. The other is listed as 8-1/2x10-1/2, but the one I have is 8x10-1/2 with no sign of trimming, which I assume would be too large?

Also, yes to the Mascot dog food, adding the colors to the Armour coins, Mannyland photo, etc.

"rawlings 69 yes however in red...post career card"
As are everything issued in '69 including Topps cards.

Chris, if I had an extra Rawlings card, I would definitely trade with you. But I don't. However, I do have an extra '65 Yankees photo set with Mantle. I'd gladly trade you the entire set for just the Mantle hospital postcard.

Lastly, "68 picture pack photo". What is this and who issued it? I hadn't heard of this photo pack before.

[sflayank]

68 photo pack
10 color photos in plastic bag with header card
Sold mine before they announced jumbo holders

[sflayank]

And they wont distinguish blue and green meadowgold

[bswhiten]

Originally Posted by AustinMike

The sugar was kind of tongue in check, but also pointing out the inconsistency of PSA. The packet of sugar I have is not all that thick and might fit in a holder. But even if it doesn't, couldn't a person remove the sugar and have it graded? PSA encourages the destruction (yeah, an over exaggeration) of match books by having all the matches removed so they can be slabbed.
Agree - I think PSA should have just slabbed the full book. I confirmed that Beckett will slab with matches and I plan on doing that with my pc items. My best condition books are still full/intact. Maybe Beckett will do the research and mark at least the 5 main variations on the flip...then PSA will eventually catch up since they will be cataloged lol

The Sports Pix Magazine premium photo;
There are two sizes of these. What is the maximum size PSA will slab? One is 8x10 which I gather they would slab. The other is listed as 8-1/2x10-1/2, but the one I have is 8x10-1/2 with no sign of trimming, which I assume would be too large?
JUMBO can slab anything up to 8.5x11 so both are fair game imo.

Lastly, "68 picture pack photo". What is this and who issued it? I hadn't heard of this photo pack before.
see link - i'm guessing he meant these?
http://keymancollectibles.com/photos...epackday66.htm

[bswhiten]

Originally Posted by sflayank

And they wont distinguish blue and green meadowgold

In general i don't think they recognize color variations for some reason...
Light brown/brown and Yellow/brown Yoo-Hoo...the card stock is even different.
But it isn't cataloged

[Neal]

cool Maris Frank!
Never saw that one

[AustinMike]

Originally Posted by bswhiten

Lastly, "68 picture pack photo". What is this and who issued it? I hadn't heard of this photo pack before.
see link - i'm guessing he meant these?
http://keymancollectibles.com/photos...epackday66.htm

As Keyman points out, those were issued in 1966. They were given out during a home game. They must have also been sold in concession stands. They can be found with either Houk or Keane (I've seen Keane much less often, probably because he was fired early in the year).

By the way, very nice HI matchbook collection! (insert envious emoji here).

[AustinMike]

Originally Posted by bswhiten

In general i don't think they recognize color variations for some reason...
Light brown/brown and Yellow/brown Yoo-Hoo...the card stock is even different.
But it isn't cataloged

Again, nice matchbook collection! I passed on a light brown matchbook a while ago because I didn't know they existed. I thought it must be a faded yellow matchbook. If you ever want to get rid of any, let me know. I might be able to find a good home for them.

[sflayank]

Definitely 68 issue
I had the unopened pack

[AustinMike]

Larry, did you keep any pictures of the set that you could post? Besides Mantles, I collect Yankee photo sets/packs etc. I've not heard of that set yet. I've attached a picture of an advertisement in a 1966 Yankee program for the 1966 set.

[sflayank]

Didn't save photo
There might be one in the archives on here
Ended up selling on ebay
Interesting though...
Now you have me thinking

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by mantlefan

Nothing new there. Lots of swimming room in a lot of PSA holders.

Including for regular sized cards. I've noticed a lot of '60s cards slide slightly side to side within the holders. I've busted some out that I knew I was keeping sometimes for this reason before, and then I'll notice later that other cards that I don't want to take out of the slab do it too. Some do and some don't, but it's annoying. There have supposedly been studies done to show that it cannot hurt the cards, one guy even put a PSA slab in a paint shaking machine like they have down at Home Depot. Supposedly couldn't tell any difference after shaking the hell out of a card for 10 straight minutes. I don't know...

You would think that with all of the empahsis PSA puts on other things, they could design a consistent holder where this does not happen - at least for run-of-the-mill, standard issue and size baseball cards.

[DBesse27]

I’m loving the matchbook hoarde!

[Bestdj777]

Originally Posted by DBesse27

I’m loving the matchbook hoarde!

I personally think it is a little excessive and that he should share with his fellow Mantle collecting buddies Who needs that many matchbooks?!? I've heard Ben doesn't even smoke!

(Awesome stash Ben. And, thanks again for passing a yellow one my way.)

[bswhiten]

Somewhere out there is a dude that found some yellow HI matches from his folks house and is lighting up some cigs right now haha

[Bestdj777]

Originally Posted by bswhiten

Somewhere out there is a dude that found some yellow HI matches from his folks house and is lighting up some cigs right now haha

I much prefer that thought to the guy sitting at home right now ripping out the matches and chucking them in the trash so he can send the thing off for grading

[bswhiten]

Originally Posted by Bestdj777

I much prefer that thought to the guy sitting at home right now ripping out the matches and chucking them in the trash so he can send the thing off for grading

One of the registry guys asked me to take the matches out for him. He got a PSA 4 out of it and the matches and a staple in a toploader! Haha

[Bestdj777]

Originally Posted by bswhiten

One of the registry guys asked me to take the matches out for him. He got a PSA 4 out of it and the matches and a staple in a toploader! Haha

Nicely done. Glad you didn't destroy it in the process. It's nice that it comes apart like that.

[AustinMike]

Originally Posted by bswhiten

One of the registry guys asked me to take the matches out for him. He got a PSA 4 out of it and the matches and a staple in a toploader! Haha

Whoa, that's a lot of wine you had to drink to calm your fears of destroying the matchbook and steady your hands to be able to do such a great job.

[bswhiten]

Haha... yea the guy I took the staple out for owns an Italian restaurant so I’m sure the wine corks are plentiful his pic.

[bswhiten]

A couple more Jumbo's back from PSA...
6 others there now. Might get them back by the end of 2019

[Bestdj777]

Originally Posted by bswhiten

A couple more Jumbo's back from PSA...
6 others there now. Might get them back by the end of 2019

Very nice. What else do you have there if you don’t mind me asking?

[whiteymet]

BOTH versions of ALL the 1955 Exhibit postcard backs should be recognized. The SCD Standard Catalog notes both backs, the plain line or the line with the words A MUTOSCOPE CARD in it.

SGC has graded and noted for me my Jackie Robinson as a Mutoscope back. PSA should do this too.

[bswhiten]

Thanks Chris. Manny’s, the 2 Requena’s, equitable, Gardner, another Rawlings... It will be interesting to see what they end up including. I noticed they changed the flip, in the span of two weeks, for the Rawlings staff from 1950-1970 to 1950’s-1970’s. Maybe they won’t include those in the Master since the dates go past Mick’s playing career.
PSA told me with the Holiday Inn Mantle 8x10 that they would grade it if there was more published data. If Kelly would have shown pics in his SCD article no doubt they would have.

[Bestdj777]

Originally Posted by bswhiten

Thanks Chris. Manny’s, the 2 Requena’s, equitable, Gardner, another Rawlings... It will be interesting to see what they end up including. I noticed they changed the flip, in the span of two weeks, for the Rawlings staff from 1950-1970 to 1950’s-1970’s. Maybe they won’t include those in the Master since the dates go past Mick’s playing career.
PSA told me with the Holiday Inn Mantle 8x10 that they would grade it if there was more published data. If Kelly would have shown pics in his SCD article no doubt they would have.

Thanks Ben. I don’t know that a picture would help as it didn’t get them over the hurdle with the 51 photo cards...

[AustinMike]

Originally Posted by bswhiten

PSA told me with the Holiday Inn Mantle 8x10 that they would grade it if there was more published data. If Kelly would have shown pics in his SCD article no doubt they would have.

That's funny. I thought it did include pictures. Had to go back and check and sure enough, my memory conjured up something that wasn't there.

Originally Posted by Bestdj777

Thanks Ben. I don’t know that a picture would help as it didn’t get them over the hurdle with the 51 photo cards...

+1

[AustinMike]

Originally Posted by bswhiten

A couple more Jumbo's back from PSA...
6 others there now. Might get them back by the end of 2019

Ben, did you tell them the picture on the right was from a 1954 All-Star photo set or did they automatically put that on? I ask because that is the same photo used in a Yankee photo set that I think is from 1956. It could very well be used in Yankee photo sets from other years as well.

[bswhiten]

Mike - I submitted it as a crossover from an SGC slab that identified it as a 1954 A.S. Photo Pack, of course it was an SGC 4 and PSA downgraded it to a 3.5
I thought PSA kept the flips for crossovers to send back to the other grading companies but i guess the onus is on the collector now.

Chris - Yea i would love to hear why the 51 self promo card isn't recognized since it is clearly documented. Maybe since Mantle probably issued it himself? I wonder if there are any other self promotion items graded by tpg...

[bswhiten]

Another one to add to the Jumbo slab list...
And PSA is slabbing large full boxes now so 64 Meadowgold is fair game.

[sflayank]

Flat meadowgold carton is way too big for jumbo holder

[bswhiten]

Originally Posted by sflayank

Flat meadowgold carton is way too big for jumbo holder

7.25 x 9.75

[bswhiten]

They allow the flaps to be folded in...why they are now grading full Hostess boxes.