Wealth of information and Kind individuals

[Tyruscobb]

I want to publicly thank Howard Chasser for helping me avoid a disastrous situation. To make a long story short, Howard pointed out, and provided irrefutable information/proof, that I had recently purchased an aged-reprint.

Because of Howard, I was able to immediately obtain a refund, and avoided the embarrassment of potentially re-selling a reprint. Also, because of Howard, I was able to show the seller that his listings, at least for that particular pre-war issue, were all reprints. I just discovered that the seller has taken down every listing for that particular issue. The seller profusely apologized to me. Howard saved other potential buyers from the same mistake that I made.

The story has several morals. First, no one is perfect and everyone makes mistakes, including long-time sellers and buyers. Two, carefully do your due diligence, especially when wadding into waters that you normally don’t encounter (I had just started a sub-set project and spent a few hundred dollars on an issue that was not familiar with). Lesson learned!

Finally and most importantly, this situation illustrates the kind, and very knowledgeable individuals that make up Net54. I appreciate this forum and its wealth of information that members readily share to help each other.

Howard, I owe you a debt of gratitude. Thank you, sir.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Howard's a great guy.

I know you don't want to out anyone because everyone handled the situation properly, but can you at least tell us what set it was so we can be on the lookout for it? PM me if you prefer.

[Tyruscobb]

Hey Scott,

I just sent you a PM. There were only six or seven cards listed, so I don't think it will be an issue going forward.

[Jobu]

I also saw those cards and I messaged the seller telling him why they were fakes and asking him to take them down. The seller has great feedback, I have purchased from him before without issue, and he did the right thing with the refund and apology. So Tyrus, I applaud you for not putting the seller's name in this thread to make sure he doesn't potentially get dragged for an honest mistake.

[Tyruscobb]

I'm sure that it was an oversight on his part. I have probably purchased four or five raw 1950s and 1960s cards from him over the years. They have always graded right where I expected. In my experience, his listing's have always accurately described the card's condition, and he even voluntarily points out flaws - including latent ones.

All those factors contributed to me blindly assuming/trusting that the card I was purchasing was real. Considering he is a long-time seller, has a high rating, and I've always had great experiences in the past with his purchases, I admittedly didn't do my due diligence. I kind of took the attitude that he had never given me a reason not to trust him, and had a great track record. Unfortunately, I shouldn't have let my guard down. Lesson learned.

However, when I showed him the evidence he did not argue with me, get defensive, and profusely apologized. He immediately refunded my money, took down the remaining listings, and also refunded/canceled someone else's recent order. So, he ended up doing right by me and the other guy that purchased one and did not even know there was an issue with his purchase.

I was extremely lucky and only caught the mistake by pure chance. The only reason I caught the issue was that I had recently purchased two different cards of this player, and decided to only keep one. I elected to keep the T-206 copy and discussed the other card with Howard. If I had elected to keep the other card, or did not discuss it with Howard, it probably would be sitting in my collection undetected until Bobby's next piggyback submission. I wouldn't have discovered the reprint issue for a long time.

Howard was the one that did the detective work and discovered the red flag. Again, thanks Howard. I give the guy a pass on this one. No one is perfect. Just goes to show that you got to remain on your toes at all times.

[todeen]

I second the vast knowledge of this site. More so, I greatly enjoy random PM's that show up to give extra information. I posted a card 18 months ago I thought was legit, and it turns out it wasn't either. Always good to have a place with dozens of knowledgeable and kind individuals.

[Yankees1964]

Certainly you should not put his name out there, but in my mind I'd really like to know who he is for the opposite reason. When you find someone who does the right thing and can be trusted if something slips though to also do the right thing, that's a person I want to buy from.

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[Kevin]

Been here 4 + months. Man, those PMs are exciting because someone is trying to help you out.

[chadeast]

Originally Posted by Yankees1964

Certainly you should not put his name out there, but in my mind I'd really like to know who he is for the opposite reason. When you find someone who does the right thing and can be trusted if something slips though to also do the right thing, that's a person I want to buy from.

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+1. I was thinking the exact same thing.

[sando69]

Originally Posted by chadeast

+1. I was thinking the exact same thing.

as was i
we need to protect the good, honest, honorable individuals with integrity in the hobby.
we also need to support them with our business!