Marvin Hagler

[One 'ol Cat]

Weird how we always commemerate icons when they die. Marvin Hagler was a warrior and I will never forget when he fought Sugar Ray Leonard or Thomas Hearns. Those were EVENTS. Sadly, nothing approaches that today.

[D. Bergin]

Damn! Marvin always seemed to be in great shape whenever I saw him.

[Peter_Spaeth]

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[Peter_Spaeth]

The Leonard fight was a classic. Watching it as it happened, I thought Hagler had won but on replay you could see Leonard landed a lot more punches even if they weren't particularly damaging. And there was one unforgettable flurry where Leonard really showed that unreal hand speed, just stunning.

[Hxcmilkshake]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

The Leonard fight was a classic. Watching it as it happened, I thought Hagler had won but on replay you could see Leonard landed a lot more punches even if they weren't particularly damaging. And there was one unforgettable flurry where Leonard really showed that unreal hand speed, just stunning.

I remember Hagler didn't even seem to be breathing hard after that fight. Leonard did zero damage.

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[Hxcmilkshake]

One of the great 1st rounds you'll ever see

Watch "Marvin Hagler VS Thomas Hearns in 1080p" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/ASe3GTXgC1o

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[Exhibitman]

First of the Four Kings to leave us. RIP Warrior. He deserves a ten-count:

https://youtu.be/zase38A-U_8



Lenticular key card from Caesar's Palace, Hagler-Hearns. Sorry the scan isn't cleaner but these motion cards are hard to scan.

[D. Bergin]

Marvin vs. Bennie Briscoe Flash Gordon Program/Mag

[D. Bergin]

Marvin could be ornery at times, but if you could get his autograph, it was one of the nicest in the hobby.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

The Leonard fight was a classic. Watching it as it happened, I thought Hagler had won but on replay you could see Leonard landed a lot more punches even if they weren't particularly damaging. And there was one unforgettable flurry where Leonard really showed that unreal hand speed, just stunning.

Good for Leonard they decided to somehow judge it like an Olympic bout. The first time I'd ever heard Leonard won "based on ring generalship". If you dont think that fight was the fix of the decade, there some land in Florida with no gators at low tide for you.

[3-2-count]

Can't really state if the fight was fixed or not, but I've watched it several times including live and Hagler was the winner in my opinion.

[vintage mesiah]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

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Oh my

[Tao_Moko]

62-3-2 w/ 52 ko's. Hard to argue that. Definaty a GOAT.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by Tao_Moko

62-3-2 w/ 52 ko's. Hard to argue that. Definaty a GOAT.

i think Sugar Ray Robinson and Carlos Monzon might have something to say about the middleweight GOAT. From The Ring, which ranked both of them ahead of Hagler:

SUGAR RAY ROBINSON (1951, 1951-52, 1955-57, 1957, 1958-60)

The original “Sugar Man’s” five-way rivalry with Jake LaMotta, Gene Fullmer, Carmen Basilio and Bobo Olson rubberstamped an unmatched legacy at 160 pounds. What’s more astonishing is that the five-time middleweight champion peaked at welterweight. For many, the perfect fighter.

CARLOS MONZON (1970-77)

The legendary Argentine pressure-puncher is a popular choice for being the greatest middleweight of all time. He won the championship with a 12th-round stoppage of the superb Nino Benvenuti and made 14 successful defenses, nine of which came by knockout.

I also wonder about B-Hop; he excelled at messing up bulls like Hagler. Again, from The Ring, which ranked him #4 after Hagler:

BERNARD HOPKINS (2001-05)

“The Executioner” was 36 years old when he schooled Felix Trinidad to secure superstar status. Smart, freakishly dedicated and a golden era throwback, this old-school Philadelphia general posted an incredible 19 successful defenses of his IBF title (among others) – a division record.

And since we need some cards:

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Good for Leonard they decided to somehow judge it like an Olympic bout. The first time I'd ever heard Leonard won "based on ring generalship". If you dont think that fight was the fix of the decade, there some land in Florida with no gators at low tide for you.

I agree.

As a amateur fighter at the time he was one of the few boxers I watched. Weirdly I loved boxing but was not a big fan of watching it.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by 3-2-count

Can't really state if the fight was fixed or not, but I've watched it several times including live and Hagler was the winner in my opinion.

I watched it with a group of guys and that was surely the consensus, but with Marvin being a local we may have been biased.

[Tao_Moko]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

i think Sugar Ray Robinson and Carlos Monzon might have something to say about the middleweight GOAT. From The Ring, which ranked both of them ahead of Hagler:

SUGAR RAY ROBINSON (1951, 1951-52, 1955-57, 1957, 1958-60)

The original “Sugar Man’s” five-way rivalry with Jake LaMotta, Gene Fullmer, Carmen Basilio and Bobo Olson rubberstamped an unmatched legacy at 160 pounds. What’s more astonishing is that the five-time middleweight champion peaked at welterweight. For many, the perfect fighter.

CARLOS MONZON (1970-77)

The legendary Argentine pressure-puncher is a popular choice for being the greatest middleweight of all time. He won the championship with a 12th-round stoppage of the superb Nino Benvenuti and made 14 successful defenses, nine of which came by knockout.

I also wonder about B-Hop; he excelled at messing up bulls like Hagler. Again, from The Ring, which ranked him #4 after Hagler:

BERNARD HOPKINS (2001-05)

“The Executioner” was 36 years old when he schooled Felix Trinidad to secure superstar status. Smart, freakishly dedicated and a golden era throwback, this old-school Philadelphia general posted an incredible 19 successful defenses of his IBF title (among others) – a division record.

And since we need some cards:

"a GOAT". I dont have any singular favorites in any weight class. I tend to favor the ones I watched and both Robinson and Monzon were before my time. Hopkins, also amazing.