Is PSA Not Grading T206s with color variations?

[Blunder19]

I submitted one of the below cards for a PSA cross over.. and just received a "No Grade" on the card.... Being told it is not a recognized variation... which is absurd because I cracked one of these cards out of a PSA holder years back.. and had it switched to SGC.. and now looking to put it back in a PSA holder...

Im curious if anyone can share pictures of any similar T206s which have been graded by PSA so I have some evidence to show them on how they have already graded these... please post a picture of your PSA graded T206 card which is missing color if you have one..




thank you...

[Blunder19]

I was able to find the picture of when the card was previously in a PSA holder..

I realize the flip doesn't say color variation.. but I told PSA I was fine with that... just wanted the card in an authentic holder.. and was told they wouldn't encase the card because they dont recognize the variation.. but do they recognize T206 cards? lol

[bnorth]

Both PSA and SGC quit labeling color variation because they slabbed a ton of faded cards as color variations. Not sure when PSA stopped doing it but SGC hasn't done it for at least 3 years. That is the story I got from SGC about 3 years ago when I sent some to them.

[Blunder19]

yes but shouldn't they still be able to grade the card as a regular T206 and encapsulate as Authentic?

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Blunder19

yes but shouldn't they still be able to grade the card as a regular T206 and encapsulate as Authentic?

You would think so. That is what SGC did with mine about 3 years ago, graded but no "color variation" label.

[atx840]

Hey Jamie, they use to put it on the flip but as mentioned I don't think either will anymore unfortunately.

[swarmee]

You may have to go higher up the chain. Is the front/back combination a recognized combination? Or is it one that could only be a printer's scrap because it was unreleased?
Now that they break out all the different backs/factory numbers, it may not "exist" in the official "set" of pack-released T206 cards.

When you submitted, did you comment "SLAB AS AUTHENTIC IF IT DOES NOT GET NUMBER GRADE"?

[Ronnie73]

I just checked my scans of these Yellow/Browns that I've put together over the years and all were either raw or SGC graded except for the few that were already posted here in PSA holders. So I've got nothing more to contribute than what already has.

I remember both companies making a change after the first Old Mill Blue was found and graded. When the second was being prepped for grading, that's when a new policy took effect but I don't know the details and that's also why I still haven't graded my Blue Old Mill. It would be nice to have it graded but I don't need either of them to tell me it's real. I already know that. So I've been in a holding pattern for awhile now, when it comes to Third Party Grading.

[drcy]

For cards such as in OP, all that you need are an AUTH grade.

The card is in rough shape and obviously it's missing colors.

[Blunder19]

agreed whats being said here.. and yes i did check the authentic box on the submission form.... seems like a mistake if they thought i needed the flip to say missing color... ill resubmit it and just list the card as a t206 seymour on the submission form with no mention of color missing..

[fkm_bky]

Maybe if it had perforated edges and the hallmarks of an obvious CJ fake, PSA would grade it for you.

I understand the hesitancy to label it as missing color or other descriptives, but at least give it an A, recognizing it's a T206 for crying out loud.

Was going to send the bulk of my collection to PSA for grading soon, but I think I'll pass and just hold them as is. Seems there's a lot of turmoil over there right now. I used to be a bigger fan of SGC but I really don't like their new holders.

Bill

[Leon]

Lol

I guess investors want to see a flip.....

Originally Posted by fkm_bky

maybe if it had perforated edges and the hallmarks of an obvious cj fake, psa would grade it for you. :d

i understand the hesitancy to label it as missing color or other descriptives, but at least give it an a, recognizing it's a t206 for crying out loud.

Was going to send the bulk of my collection to psa for grading soon, but i think i'll pass and just hold them as is. Seems there's a lot of turmoil over there right now. I used to be a bigger fan of sgc but i really don't like their new holders.

Bill

[Fred]

I would almost put money on it that PSA will start putting "color variation" on it when they figure out that people will pay a premium for the card. That little bit of text on the flip could be worth another $50 or more on their submission fee if they determine the value of the card is hyper inflated because of the "color variation".

Pretty soon we'll be looking at Pop Reports with this new added tag and then everyone will be able to figure out that the "color variations" must be rare and therefore expensive. damn the voices in my head...

[steve B]

They're "experts" until they get stuff that most kids could spot with 15 minutes training. Then it's "too hard to tell"

How about just close and let actual experts do the work.

[Sean]

I submitted this one to PSA 2 years ago. They told me that they didn't grade "scraps." It's currently in an SGC "A" holder.IMG_1400.jpg

[Sean]

This they graded, but that was 20 years ago. IMG_1341.jpg

[atx840]

Originally Posted by Sean

This they graded, but that was 20 years ago. Attachment 424743

One of my favorite cards Sean

[Sean]

Originally Posted by atx840

One of my favorite cards Sean

Mine as well Chris.