the counterfeiter

[Shoeless Moe]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib37AEq2c8I

[Leon]

That is a good video. Every collector should watch it.

[gregr2]

Good video, valuable information. Jut goes to show how hard it is to determine authenticity.

[yanksfan09]

Very good and interesting video. However, I find it pretty funny how he thinks he's the greatest forger in history! Quantity doesn't equate to quality!

So many of those items are such badly done obvious fakes! The McGwires and Sosas are so amateurish. He certainly was likely the most prolific in terms of numbers he sold and ripped off but needs to stop considering himself as some great artist, imo!

I don't think many of those sigs would get past many of the experts on this board!

If these clowns had been forging crap and getting passed by PSA or something it would have been more "impressive" as far as their skill. Thankfully that didn't happen. These knuckleheads had to set up their own fraud COA service to stamp all their garbage!

[irv]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib37AEq2c8I

Thanks for posting the vid.

I looked for it on American Greed and was going to post it in the T206 thread but I obviously was looking for it in the wrong place.

Definitely an eye opener but I wonder how many of still exists out there with collectors who are unaware of this story and think what they have is real?

[JLange]

Had not seen that before. Thanks for posting.

[CobbSpikedMe]

Thanks for posting. The number of fakes he produced was nuts. I was amazed at how many different autos he could fake. Some of them weren't spot on, but to be able to do so many different ones is impressive and alarming. He did Mother Theresa for cryin' out loud along side Marilyn Monroe and Abraham Lincoln.

[ullmandds]

My god!!!!!! I've never been a fan of paying for autographs...although I've bought a few over the years...low $$$$$$$$ amount. After seeing this...I would NEVER...EVER pay for an autograph again!!!!!!! Provenance or no provenance...NEVER!!!

[johnts1]

Very enlightening! Those guys ripped off a lot of people, and they were punished for it. It's such a shame that that garbage is still floating around in the industry today, and poor suckers who really don't know what they're doing are purchasing these bogus, fake autographs. However, you have so many good resources out there today, to guide you in your collecting. Great people, who know autographs. Like this site.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by yanksfan09

If these clowns had been forging crap and getting passed by PSA or something it would have been more "impressive" as far as their skill. Thankfully that didn't happen. These knuckleheads had to set up their own fraud COA service to stamp all their garbage!

As I’ve stated before, I have an extremely low opinion of the so-called “expert” third party authenticators that exist in the hobby....ESPECIALLY when it comes to autographs. I’ll bet a lot of those signatures would still be deemed as authentic by the “heavyweights” (you know who I mean) in the field. Conversely, those “experts” might tell you an autograph you got in person is no good. I just wish I’d thought of this cash cow.

Rob Greene

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

My god!!!!!! I've never been a fan of paying for autographs...although I've bought a few over the years...low $$$$$$$$ amount. After seeing this...I would NEVER...EVER pay for an autograph again!!!!!!! Provenance or no provenance...NEVER!!!

especially with fake fish story provenance, never.