Lakers Rockets fight

[Touch'EmAll]

Jeez, a lot happened, players now suspended. My question, what prompted initial shove by Ingram? I looked very close at replay, may times, frame by frame. Harden was driving to the basket, defended by Ingram, Harden was first to act - a right backhand to Ingram by Harden followed by a "flop" head whip back by Harden (to try and sell a foul). After which was the Ingram shove. Ingram should'nt have shoved Harden, agreed, but the backhand and head whip back first by Harden appeared to be the initial contact. I can see why Ingram was upset and consequently shoved Harden. edited to say - it is indeed tough to see all the contact that started it conclusively. I just posted what it looked like to me, others may see it different, and that is ok.

[D. Bergin]

Honestly, I don't blame anybody who wants to take a shot at James Harden. He has such a dishonest style of play, it just rubs a lot of players (and fans) the wrong way.

He obviously changed his course of his direction during the flow of the play solely to draw a foul, and that's what got Ingram riled up to begin with.

Harden for some reason is the type of player who would rather fake a foul and miss the shot, then just go in for an easy layup.

He's a smart player, so there's probably some analytical reason for that. Like he's likely to make the free throws anyways, and it put's more pressure on the defense getting into foul trouble at the same time.

[gopherfan]

I can't stand watching Harden play. Tons of talent, but a game that just sucks to watch. Players are likely sick of him driving straight at them, and doing the head whip thing that D. Bergin talked about.

I also hate when he stands at the 3 point line, and as soon as a player puts their hand near him, he brings the ball up through their arm to draw contact and hoists a 3. Ugly basketball.