Absurd PWCC Shipping Cost........BEWARE

[autograf]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1910-L40-Mu...p2047675.l2557

As if the shilling isn't enough.....I won an L40 Amherst Baseball leather on ebay last night. It said $15.00 shipping, so I should have emailed them but their Shipping matrix shows $4 for a single item won between $0-$250. I emailed to confirm after winning and was told that it fell in the oversize clause of their shipping. The leather is 2-9/16 by 3-9/16, exactly 1/16 by 1/16 larger than a standard sized card. It comes with an envelope that it came in which is maybe 1/16 larger than that as it fits snugly inside.

I was informed by Bobby Rittenhouse of PWCC that the $15.00 was, indeed, a good shipping charge for the item. Should have checked with them first because didn't think they would try to go with the absurd shipping. SOOOOO.....be sure you look very closely as they do not really understand the true meaning of the word oversized. I'll be expecting this item to be shipped in the sturdiest of containers, double-boxed due to the extreme fragility, in the timeliest of manners.

[Leon]

Finally. A thread that will grow legs .

[autograf]

Originally Posted by Leon

Finally. A thread that will grow legs .

haha. I'll be flamed but it is ridiculous. Just trying to help you out with your clicks, Leon...........

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Leon

Finally. A thread that will grow legs .

Indeed. Far more interesting than a major hobby figure found by a federal jury to have committed market manipulation.

[autograf]

Hey....we can walk and chew gum both around here.........well, maybe better rethink that one.

[peterose4hof]

The shipping price was clearly listed. You should have only bid if you were willing to pay the published shipping cost.

However, as an eBay seller who values customer service I would have offered you a reduced shipping cost if in fact the actual shipping costs were going to be significantly lower than what I charged you.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by peterose4hof

The shipping price was clearly listed. You should have only bid if you were willing to pay the published shipping cost.

However, as an eBay seller who values customer service I would have offered you a reduced shipping cost if in fact the actual shipping costs were going to be significantly lower than what I charged you.

Sounds right on both accounts.

[the-illini]

Originally Posted by peterose4hof

The shipping price was clearly listed. You should have only bid if you were willing to pay the published shipping cost.

However, as an eBay seller who values customer service I would have offered you a reduced shipping cost if in fact the actual shipping costs were going to be significantly lower than what I charged you.

Yep.

Listed or not, $11 extra for 1/16 x 1/16 larger is a bad way to run your business IMO.

Having gotten shipments from them before, they are not spending 11 bucks extra to ship Tom's item, I can promise you that.

The auction houses don't shill ....
It's the submitter of the item doing it from home

Originally Posted by autograf

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1910-L40-Mu...p2047675.l2557

As if the shilling isn't enough.....I won an L40 Amherst Baseball leather on ebay last night. It said $15.00 shipping, so I should have emailed them but their Shipping matrix shows $4 for a single item won between $0-$250. I emailed to confirm after winning and was told that it fell in the oversize clause of their shipping. The leather is 2-9/16 by 3-9/16, exactly 1/16 by 1/16 larger than a standard sized card. It comes with an envelope that it came in which is maybe 1/16 larger than that as it fits snugly inside.

I was informed by Bobby Rittenhouse of PWCC that the $15.00 was, indeed, a good shipping charge for the item. Should have checked with them first because didn't think they would try to go with the absurd shipping. SOOOOO.....be sure you look very closely as they do not really understand the true meaning of the word oversized. I'll be expecting this item to be shipped in the sturdiest of containers, double-boxed due to the extreme fragility, in the timeliest of manners.

[Stevenice1]

Interesting...i've always found that PWCC is pretty fair with shipping costs considering the card is insured as well. However, if you are looking for similar quality and free shipping and insurance, you may want to look at www.cardboardpicasso.com. They have an Ebay store too but the prices on their direct site are always cheaper.

[tsalem]

I will chime in and just going off the top of my head here...
I ship to Canada a lot!
Up 1-8 oz is approx $10(sometimes less) with tracking door to door to Canada
9oz to 15 oz I think is around $14 with tracking. 1 pound on up it gets real expensive.
These prices do not include signature or insurance, just delivery confirmation

[Stampsfan]

Originally Posted by jfkheat

I have bought cards from PWCC before and waited to pay because there is something else ending a day or two later that I also want. They have always combined shipping. If you win a card and pay that day then a day or two later win another one that won't combine because the first one is already packed and probably shipped.
James

As strictly a buyer on eBay, I read a lot of threads here on lousy buyers. When I buy something, I try to pay for it within 24 hours. Now you're telling me I should hold off paying because I'm paying more for doing that?

If the case is PWCC will combine shipping on items bought over a few days, then document that fact.

Originally Posted by tsalem

I will chime in and just going off the top of my head here...
I ship to Canada a lot!
Up 1-8 oz is approx $10(sometimes less) with tracking door to door to Canada
9oz to 15 oz I think is around $14 with tracking. 1 pound on up it gets real expensive.
These prices do not include signature or insurance, just delivery confirmation

As I said earlier, it simply feels like a cash grab. It is based on the estimated value of the card. A $20 PSA 8 and a $2,000 PSA 8 would be the same cost for shipping (without insurance), as it's the same packaging!!!!

Not that long ago PWCC shipping rates were reasonable. Now, not so much. UPS shipping rates have not gone up equally to the rates PWCC charges. And to confirm what Dale said , they are much higher than the outrageous Global Shipping Program.

Now if we are talking insurance, I looked up the posted UPS insurance rates for both domestic and international shipping. It is .90 (cents) per $100 of insurance (minimum of $2.40). Basically 1% of the value. So based on my example, the $20 PSA 8 costs $2.40 for insurance, and the $2000 PSA 8 costs $18 for insurance. PWCC shipping costs are way above this differential.

To quote someone earlier, I am pretty good at math too, and this does not add up to anything other than a cash grab.

[jfkheat]

Originally Posted by Stampsfan

As strictly a buyer on eBay, I read a lot of threads here on lousy buyers. When I buy something, I try to pay for it within 24 hours. Now you're telling me I should hold off paying because I'm paying more for doing that?

If the case is PWCC will combine shipping on items bought over a few days, then document that fact.

My last PWCC purchase were April 15th and 16th. The first card shipping was $4. The second was $6. I waited until the 16th to pay. Total shipping I paid was $7. I used eBay Bucks as part of the payment.
James


https://www.ebay.com/itm/401518567345

https://www.ebay.com/itm/401518085756

[Peter_Spaeth]

I was charged $12 on a recent purchase of a single card (oversized) under $300, but I just factored it into my bid so it was irrelevant really.

[JollyElm]

Originally Posted by Stevenice1

Interesting...i've always found that PWCC is pretty fair with shipping costs considering the card is insured as well. However, if you are looking for similar quality and free shipping and insurance, you may want to look at www.cardboardpicasso.com. They have an Ebay store too but the prices on their direct site are always cheaper.

Why is it you just joined and every single post has been an ad for that business?? It is clearly your business, so cut the crap and stop spamming the threads!!!

[RedsFan1941]

Originally Posted by Stevenice1

Interesting...i've always found that PWCC is pretty fair with shipping costs considering the card is insured as well. However, if you are looking for similar quality and free shipping and insurance, you may want to look at www.cardboardpicasso.com. They have an Ebay store too but the prices on their direct site are always cheaper.

since you are giving an opinion of 2 different businesses, how about posting your name?

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by RedsFan1941

since you are giving an opinion of 2 different businesses, how about posting your name?

100%. Post your name, admit you are affiliated with this site, and introduce yourself. I just checked out your site and you have decent stuff and apparently decent pricing (I don’t really know much after 1920). I think board members would like to know another/new good dealer. So stop with the douchey plugs and adds and just introduce yourself and your outfit.

Ryan Hotchkiss

[Peter_Spaeth]

That was a quick ban yikes.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

That was a quick ban yikes.

local guy too. He asked about advertising. I guess he thought spamming was the answer. LOL

[Leon]

Originally Posted by RedsFan1941

since you are giving an opinion of 2 different businesses, how about posting your name?

Gone

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Leon

Gone

LOL just pictured a very long hook yanking him off stage.