Is Aaron Judge Headed for the Best Single Season with 200 Strikeouts?

[clydepepper]

He has a chance ; He's at 178K as I type this.

Here are some other players' seasons to compare:


Mark Reynolds 2009

155G-578AB-98R-150H-30D-1T-44HR-102RBI-.260BA-.349OBP-.543SLG-.892OPS-24SB-9CS-76BB-223K

Chris Davis 2015

160G-573AB-100R-150H-31D-0T-47HR-117RBI-.262BA-.361OBP-.562SLG-.923OPS-2SB-3CS-84BB-208K


Several players have had similarly outstanding seasons in spite of 199 Strikeouts:

Ryan Howard in 2007-08 ; Adam Dunn in 2011 ; Chris Davis in 2013 ; Kris Bryant in 2015


I've always been amazed at how high some players BAs are in spite of huge numbers of strikeouts ever since Bobby Bonds set the then-record of 189 whiffs but managed to hit over .300!



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[bravos4evr]

per fWAR the best 200k season is Davis in 2015 with 5.6 fWAR and 148 wRC+

in 2013 he was worth 7 fWAR with 199 K's and a 168 wRC+


Judge's defense rates better boosting his fWAR but he's presently hitting 160 wRC+ so he has a good shot of besting Davis' 2015, been slumping lately tho

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Have we really lowered the bar on Judge this far lol?

Acutally it's a neat question, but we've gone from Babe Ruth to Chris Davis in 2 months.

[bravos4evr]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Have we really lowered the bar on Judge this far lol?

Acutally it's a neat question, but we've gone from Babe Ruth to Chris Davis in 2 months.

to be fair, the Ruth comparisons were insane. MLB is full of guys who had monster first halves to their rookie season and never did that well again. I suspect this will be the best all around season he has, but that power/defense combo will play well enough for him to be a solid 3+ fWAR annually, but he is going to K a ton.


and to be fair to Davis, he was one of the best players in baseball 2013 and 2015.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bravos4evr

to be fair, the Ruth comparisons were insane. MLB is full of guys who had monster first halves to their rookie season and never did that well again. I suspect this will be the best all around season he has, but that power/defense combo will play well enough for him to be a solid 3+ fWAR annually, but he is going to K a ton.


and to be fair to Davis, he was one of the best players in baseball 2013 and 2015.

I think that's right, and if they have not already, his card values are going to drop tremendously from their giddy peak.

[bravos4evr]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I think that's right, and if they have not already, his card values are going to drop tremendously from their giddy peak.

If he keeps hitting 40 bombs a year, being a Yankee I think his value will stay up.

I don't collect modern tho,except for the odd Braves prospects, so not sweating it!

[CMIZ5290]

Aaron Judge is in the category of Adam Dunn, Ryan Howard, and Dave Kingman. People need to pump the brakes on this guy, great potential talent, but still a lot of work ahead to show.....Someone last month compared him to Mickey Mantle, that is beyond humorous....

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Aaron Judge is in the category of Adam Dunn, Ryan Howard, and Dave Kingman. People need to pump the brakes on this guy, great potential talent, but still a lot of work ahead to show.....Someone last month compared him to Mickey Mantle, that is beyond humorous....

Totally agree, Kevin


- by the way, I just purchased 10 Hoskins rookie cards. LOL


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[Snapolit1]

Considering home many homeruns have been hit this year, a 40 homerun guy who bats in the .270s is valuable but hardly historic. But since he's on the Yankees he will get hyped well beyond that.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Looks like a Judge card sold recently for $18K plus.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Aaron-Judge-...0AAOSwTApZbmGF

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Looks like a Judge card sold recently for $18K plus.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Aaron-Judge-...0AAOSwTApZbmGF

...from the same seller I got my M116 Walter Johnson a few weeks ago.

I think I did better...for a lot less.


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[Peter_Spaeth]

The Judge wasn't even a "1/1" but rather a 1/10. Of course there are probably 100 different 1/1s.

[bravos4evr]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Aaron Judge is in the category of Adam Dunn, Ryan Howard, and Dave Kingman. People need to pump the brakes on this guy, great potential talent, but still a lot of work ahead to show.....Someone last month compared him to Mickey Mantle, that is beyond humorous....

Judge has the edge on those guys because he both plays good defense and is a good base runner which boosts his value tremendously and makes him more playable.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Looks like a Judge card sold recently for $18K plus.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Aaron-Judge-...0AAOSwTApZbmGF

It's hard to believe, (but each to their own), that someone would spend $18K, on August 13th no less, on an Aaron Judge card.

I can only assume this $18K from the buyer was like having $18.00 dollars in our pockets.

[bravos4evr]

Originally Posted by irv

It's hard to believe, (but each to their own), that someone would spend $18K, on August 13th no less, on an Aaron Judge card.

I can only assume this $18K from the buyer was like having $18.00 dollars in our pockets.

no kiddin, If I had the $$$$ to spend $18k on one card it better say Ruth, Mantle or Cobb on it!

[steve B]

If any of you feel the need to blow 18K,(Or 9K or even 3K, maybe even less) I'll happily make you a nice piece of furniture that with decent care your kids kids can use.

Heck, for 18K I can have the CNC router carve Judge into it too.

Steve B

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by steve B

If any of you feel the need to blow 18K,(Or 9K or even 3K, maybe even less) I'll happily make you a nice piece of furniture that with decent care your kids kids can use.

Heck, for 18K I can have the CNC router carve Judge into it too.

Steve B

As we speak, the Yankees Manager just announced that he was going to bench Judge for a few games.....

[packs]

Did he? From what I read he was giving Judge tonight off. He's already said Judge will play one of two games tomorrow at DH.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by packs

Did he? From what I read he was giving Judge tonight off. He's already said Judge will play one of two games tomorrow at DH.

Maybe I misspoke, but the one on ESPN I saw was what I thought was being said that he was being benched for the next few games. If he only plays in one game tomorrow, that would still be sitting two of the next three games. Having said that, I think he is only hitting .179 since the All Star break, is that correct?

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

As we speak, the Yankees Manager just announced that he was going to bench Judge for a few games.....

new nickname: ALL SIT DOWN


yuk-yuk
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[irv]

Yankees manager Joe Girardi finally has run out of patience waiting and waiting and waiting for rookie right fielder Aaron Judge to hit his way out of a second-half slump.

A first big drastic decision was made Monday:

Judge was benched for the Yankees' series opener against the Cleveland Indians at Yankee Stadium and he's probably going to sit out Tuesday night's game against the Tribe as well.

http://www.nj.com/yankees/index.ssf/...now_for_2.html

[the 'stache]

The Judge purple chrome refractor auto that shows sold at $18k is back up for sale by the same seller with an $11,550 BIN price.

[KCRfan1]

How are you doing Bill? Nice to see you're still around!!!!

I stay FAR away from the new stuff, and look only for cards between 53 and 73.

[clydepepper]

Welcome back, Bill. How's the collusion going?

[irv]

Originally Posted by the 'stache

The Judge purple chrome refractor auto that shows sold at $18k is back up for sale by the same seller with an $11,550 BIN price.

Long time no post, Bill. I was just wondering about you the other day?
Hope all is well, or is at least going much better!

With that $18K Judge card. I assume the buyer backed out/cancelled, or is there maybe something else going on?

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

Totally agree, Kevin


- by the way, I just purchased 10 Hoskins rookie cards. LOL


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Since my super powers which, to date, had only effected folks in line behind me at banks and grocery stores, and Hoskins has not homered since my lot of RCs arrived, feel free to warn me if you see a hot player and don't won't me to ruin his future.

FYI- I had not 'loaded up' on Aaron Judge cards...I only have what I pulled from packs last year. So, I won't take credit for that one.



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