Ebay seller re-selling undelivered items

[Prof_Plum]

This isn’t about the money nearly as much as the principle involved. I won an auction for 18 PSA graded cards. My winning bid, $1.04. A week or two go by and having not received my cards, I email the seller, because there was an associated tracking number that kept coming up as ‘invalid’. Seller tells me he was the cosigner for the items and that the card’s owner wouldn’t send them to me, most likely because of the low winning bid. I leave a negative feedback. Seller and I go back and forth for a couple of weeks trying to get a resolution. He says he’ll never cosign items for that owner again. I end up filing a case with Ebay.

Now I see some of those same cards I won a month ago for sale by that same seller in a larger lot of cards. I’m livid and have called Ebay. Not sure what will happen, but that larger lot of PSA graded cards including some of ‘mine’ is up to $70. Seller id is dbest-psagems-in-indy.

[steve B]

Did you save the emails?

I had a seller claim the item I won on Monday was sold Friday and he didn't have time to remove it from Ebay. I had the email he sent through ebays system, and when I reported him as a "non-performing seller" They didn't even need to have me forward it to them. They read it while I was on the phone.

It took a week or so, but the seller was either suspended or banned. Their last few items were allowed to finish though which I thought was odd.

Steve B

[Prof_Plum]

All my emails I sent to the seller were through the Ebay system. So they should be able to see them.

f.w.i.w. The cards were Ken Griffey cards. I was trying to explain this to the resolution center last night on the phone and could tell the gal on the other end had no idea who Ken Griffey was. She understood the issue well enough - just seemed unlucky for me that I'd get somebody who'd never heard of Ken Griffey. And I'm not his biggest fan but I couldn't pass up 18 graded cards, some rookies, for a buck.

[savedfrommyspokes]

I have dealt with this ebayer also....having sold on ebay for over 10 years, he was one of the MOST unreasonable buyers I have dealt with. He purchased raw cards described as EX-MT from me and was livid with me because these cards would not grade an "8". His messages to me at times were nearly unintelligible, almost as if he was under the influence.

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by Prof_Plum

This isn’t about the money nearly as much as the principle involved. I won an auction for 18 PSA graded cards. My winning bid, $1.04. A week or two go by and having not received my cards, I email the seller, because there was an associated tracking number that kept coming up as ‘invalid’. Seller tells me he was the cosigner for the items and that the card’s owner wouldn’t send them to me, most likely because of the low winning bid. I leave a negative feedback. Seller and I go back and forth for a couple of weeks trying to get a resolution. He says he’ll never cosign items for that owner again. I end up filing a case with Ebay.

Now I see some of those same cards I won a month ago for sale by that same seller in a larger lot of cards. I’m livid and have called Ebay. Not sure what will happen, but that larger lot of PSA graded cards including some of ‘mine’ is up to $70. Seller id is dbest-psagems-in-indy.

I was curious about what this seller had to say about the situation. So I emailed him after your post.
"I see that some of these cards for sale were already sold and you have negative feedback on that auction (251145245829) saying you never shipped them.
Should they be for sale again if they belong to another ebayer?"

I got a response today:
"these are all new cards, i have duplicates of mny cards, some i have three and 4 of

- dbest-psagems-in-indy"

So he just isn't very honest. I replied back pointing out that the cards have the exact same Serial number.

[Prof_Plum]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

I was curious about what this seller had to say about the situation. So I emailed him after your post.
"I see that some of these cards for sale were already sold and you have negative feedback on that auction (251145245829) saying you never shipped them.
Should they be for sale again if they belong to another ebayer?"

I got a response today:
"these are all new cards, i have duplicates of mny cards, some i have three and 4 of

- dbest-psagems-in-indy"

So he just isn't very honest. I replied back pointing out that the cards have the exact same Serial number.

Thanks. He sent me basically the same message ("I have duplicates"). He shouldn't have, because it only re-enraged me. I immediately called Ebay and pushed for his suspension.

You'd think somebody with 'psagems' in their name would realize the serial numbers are unique and that some people actually look at those numbers.

edit added: He responded that the photos are stock photos. This may be true. Could have saved himself some headache if he stated this on his listings.

[bobbyw8469]

Bottom line, you won 17 PSA graded cards for $1.07. It cost 85 times as much just to get them graded alone than what you paid. The seller got hosed on the price and didn't want to deliver.

[Prof_Plum]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Bottom line, you won 17 PSA graded cards for $1.07. It cost 85 times as much just to get them graded alone than what you paid. The seller got hosed on the price and didn't want to deliver.

That's it in a nutshell. And after thinking more about it, during our back-n-forth emails in trying to resolve the original non-mailing I asked him if he had similar cards he could have sent to me, to basically replace those that the original owner wouldn't send. dbest-psagems-in-indy said he didn't have any more Griffey cards like those originals. 'Course now when asked by Andy and me about his re-listing of those Griffey cards with matching PSA serial numbers, he states he has duplicates, 3-4 of some.

I quit following this and have no idea nor care about the status of dbest-psagems.....

[SushiX37]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Bottom line, you won 17 PSA graded cards for $1.07. It cost 85 times as much just to get them graded alone than what you paid. The seller got hosed on the price and didn't want to deliver.

Doesn't matter. If you sell an item on eBay, it's sold. You are required to follow through.

Rich

[Leon]

Originally Posted by SushiX37

Doesn't matter. If you sell an item on eBay, it's sold. You are required to follow through.

Rich

"Required"? Of course it's required and now we see where that has got the original poster. The seller should be suspended from ebay for an extended amount of time and then when let back he should not be given anymore chances. Two strikes and you are out.

[thisisradioclash]

Just added to my eBay block list

[aclinton1107]

This is why I have left ebay. I sold three cards to a buyer a 52 bowman mantle a 70 topps ryan and a 56 mantle. I gave them to him for 575 he paid, but when he got the package he claimed that two of the cards were missing, now im in a hell of a sitaution with ebay because they want me to refund him the money for the 56 and 52. Kind of fishy that he only recieved the lowest value card, on top of that he is using his wifes ebay stuff. Does ebay care? no. does paypal care? no. eventually when the whole baseball card hobby leaves them hopefully they will see they need to protect the seller as much as the buyer. Im out the money probably unless a miracle happens and the case is ruled in my favor.

[mcadams]

Originally Posted by Prof_Plum

Thanks. He sent me basically the same message ("I have duplicates"). He shouldn't have, because it only re-enraged me. I immediately called Ebay and pushed for his suspension.

You'd think somebody with 'psagems' in their name would realize the serial numbers are unique and that some people actually look at those numbers.

edit added: He responded that the photos are stock photos. This may be true. Could have saved himself some headache if he stated this on his listings.

IMO, the use of stock photos on Ebay without a clear statement that "the photo is not the actual card you'll get" is just as much of a violation of trust as him not delivering you the cards you won and lying to you about not having them in his possession. By posting a picture on Ebay, he made a representation to you that you'd be buying that item. It should be obvious to him that people have centering preferences etc. even with graded cards, and viewing the ACTUAL card is of utmost importance.

[OmertaReno]

Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes

I have dealt with this ebayer also....having sold on ebay for over 10 years, he was one of the MOST unreasonable buyers I have dealt with. He purchased raw cards described as EX-MT from me and was livid with me because these cards would not grade an "8". His messages to me at times were nearly unintelligible, almost as if he was under the influence.

I just had the misfortune of dealing with this loser.

He bought a card described NM/M and then complained that "the card will grade a PSA5, I know because I can just look at a card and know what it will grade, I've been doing this for 20 years".

When I forwarded him the Beckett description of NM/M, and stated that the card was even better than that, he went off the rails, telling me i sell nothing but garbage, I'm trash, I must have used the card for cleaning weed before shipping, etc. The guys a freaking psycho.

[gregr2]

Originally Posted by thisisradioclash

Just added to my eBay block list

This ^^^ I don't need these kind of hassles. Blocking is easy.

[mikemb]

Added to my blocked bidder list too. He has over 200 bid retractions! Mike

[Republicaninmass]

Is there anything legally that could be done? We are talking $1, but what it was 5k or higher? Specific performance?

[jiw98]

Originally Posted by aclinton1107

This is why I have left ebay. I sold three cards to a buyer a 52 bowman mantle a 70 topps ryan and a 56 mantle. I gave them to him for 575 he paid, but when he got the package he claimed that two of the cards were missing, now im in a hell of a sitaution with ebay because they want me to refund him the money for the 56 and 52. Kind of fishy that he only recieved the lowest value card, on top of that he is using his wifes ebay stuff. Does ebay care? no. does paypal care? no. eventually when the whole baseball card hobby leaves them hopefully they will see they need to protect the seller as much as the buyer. Im out the money probably unless a miracle happens and the case is ruled in my favor.

Did you file a claim with the package carrier? If it was insured they will investigate the claim also. It worked for me.

[swarmee]

Guys, this thread is a few years old and was bumped because of a different problem with the same seller.