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If this is their attempt to compete with PSA and their Collector Club Specials this fails miserably, IMHO!
Monthly Grading Specials September 2016 Grading Specials •Non Gold Club Member Special: $50 per card, 48 hour turnaround time. $5,000 max value per card. Gold Member Club Specials ONLY SGC GOLD CLUB MEMBERS MAY SUBMIT UNDER THESE SPECIALS. FOR INFORMATION ON THE GOLD CLUB OR TO SIGN UP TODAY PLEASE CALL TOLL FREE AT (800)742-9212. •Gold Club Standard Special: For any standard issue card. $5 per card, 30 business day turnaround time. $100 max value per card. Excludes: Cards requiring a custom cut insert & oversized cards (cards larger than 3 1/2 X 5 1/2. Examples of standard issues are most Topps, Bowman, Fleer, Goudey, Diamond Stars, Leaf, Play Ball, Donruss, Score, Panini, T-Cards, E-Cards, etc.. •Gold Club Hat Trick Special: $25 per card, 3 business day turnaround time. $2,000 max value per card. Excludes: Oversized cards Cards requiring a custom cut insert may be submitted on this special but will experience delays in the turnaround time. •Gold Club Autograph Special: Any standard certification (Sticker & Cert card or Encapsulation) $8 per item, minimum 20 items. Baseball, Basketball, Football, Hockey signers only. Excludes: Any autograph on the SGC list of premium signers, custom cut inserts (Encapsulation only), Oversized cards (Encapsulation only). The Gold Club specials are for SGC Gold Club members ONLY. SGC reserves the right to correct the amount due on any submission that is sent in prior to the submitter calling to purchase a Gold Club membership. For more information on the Gold Club please call (800)742-9212 and speak to Matt, Tyler, or Douglas. •Specials may not be combined. •Turnaround times are estimates. •Specials do not apply to On-Site grading rates. •Orders must be postmarked by the expiration date in order to receive the special •Cards that require custom inserts cannot be included with these specials •SGC accepts submissions from all customers. There are no special membership fees to submit cards. •Questions on bulk-deals please call Sean Skeffington at 1-800-742-9212 ext. 106, or email Sean Skeffington. Contact Us |
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Let me just say that my disappointment is in the fact that after paying to become a gold club member( $125 or $300) their $5 special only allows you to submit cards up to $100. I guess if you want to submit T206 commons in lower grade this is a good deal. was just hoping for something better before I joined.
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I agree. A $100 value limit on the $5 special is stupidly low for a company with a $hitty, basically non-existent registry. I can see PSA doing it to try and get people to put in their mainstream postwar cards for registry sets. I'd rather pay the extra buck a card for PSA's special just in case anything comes back a 9 or 10.
Not the way to build business and interest. About the same as PSA won't cut it. SGC has to be Avis: try harder. I am not going to join the SGC club unless their specials are worthwhile. So far, not.
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Well, in comparison, the PSA special for this month is $6.25 per card for prewar cards with 25 cards minimum, $100 declared value, and 50 business day turnaround. So in SGC's defense, they are cheaper and significantly faster than PSA.
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True, for prewar. I guess I could see sending in a boatload of Exhibits on the $5 deal.
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$5 with no minimum is really good. Not sure what more they could do on the low end. I guess it could be $4 and people would like it more, but $5 seems like a nice price to me.
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Cheaper and faster than PSA. Not quite sure how this fails miserably. It sounds like a good deal to me.
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The products aren't equivalents, Jesse. I don't see a dollar difference with the same value ceiling and faster (promised) turnaround as sufficient to differentiate from what PSA offers on its specials. It is basically a mainstream commons and minor stars special, and I don't see the value in sending that type of card to SGC; at PSA you might score a high grade worth real money to a registry geek. Now, with a $200 or $250 ceiling instead, it could really draw in all manner of superstar but lesser grade cards that really need to be slabbed to sell but that exceed the $100 limit at PSA.
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I think the $8 auto special is actually pretty nice. And the $5 special is pretty solid. If I had joined the SGC Club, I would be happy with those specials.
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Fair enough Adam, I see your point. I still disagree though. 5 bucks to grade a card is very cheap. It's hard to imagine their costs between labor and materials are much less than that. The specials for faster service and more expensive cards don't look bad either.
You could certainly send 200 or 250 value cards and declare them at 100 bucks to take advantage of the special with either company. From my understanding this would only be an issue if your card is damaged by the TPG. Or if you really abuse that policy, for example declaring a CJ jackson at 100 bucks.
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I joined at the Westchester show a couple of weeks ago to get a bunch of express grades. And with the special I am now considering sending in all of my raw T206 commons at $5 per. Definitely a good offer.
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PSA graded cards sometimes get a premium to SGC? Seriously? I need to look into this immediately. First I've heard of it.
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Believe it. A member on PSA is bragging about cracking out his SGC '9' and crossing it to PSA and snagging the exact same grade. His card just tripled in value! You rarely hear of people cracking out PSA cards to send to SGC. Very telling....
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Tripled? Really? I agree there is a difference in prices realized, but I've never heard or witnessed anything that extreme.
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Look at VCP. The data is all there. You can see the purchase price and you can see what PSA 9's typically sell for.
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PSA certainly tightened up their shot group in regards to grading... ... From what I've seen in recently holstered cards
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Unless you're saying he purchased the SGC 96 for 1/3, but that seems more like a fluke great buy than anything consistent. I sell both though I only use PSA for grading myself, because of the higher prices, but like I said I've never seen anything triple.
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Since they tightened their grading screws, don't think you will find any? many? PSA 5's with wrinkles, esp. on new flips with their logo.
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But, in this case, what you're saying, is PSA grabbed a significant market share over the past two decades based on over-grading. So don't trust PSA, unless there is a hologram on the flip. Maybe if you look closely at the hologram, it says: "PSA: This Time We've Tightened Our Grading Screws." EDITED TO ADD: Also, I just compared what I collect -- both PSA 5 and SGC 60 T206 cards -- on ebay. I see no evidence that PSA 5 T206s are doing better than SGC 60 T206s at market. See for yourself here: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sop=..._skc=100&rt=nc
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I like the specials. Only problem is I jumped the gun and send a batch for grading under the 7/card special before they announced the member specials. Oh well im looking forward to getting the sub back.
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I think that even a $6/$250 max/30 day would have been a better splash to kick start their Gold Club and gain some market share. I mean they are grading the condition of a piece of cardboard, regardless of value. We pay the return insurance so there is no liability there. For a $250 threshold I believe they would have seen a large increase in submissions.
This is great for some. T206Collector contemplating sending a large number of low value T206 cards makes sense to him at $5. I agree that the $8 autograph authentication is a nice deal if that is your thing. Just disappointed that before the Gold Club they ran specials for $6-8 per with a $100 threshold and no membership was required. So by becoming a Gold Club Member you get a few vouchers plus you can send the same cards for a couple dollar discount over their previous specials. Their Non Member $50/2 day special is probably something I would never have a use for. |
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KeepiN Everthin iN Perspective... SGC's Customer Service is Heads Above the Rest! I'd Give'em a Call, I'm Sure They'll Understand And Compensate You the Best they are able to! Truly can't hurt... RiGHT!?!? I'm Gunna wait a bit and Join as Need be... SGC is Still evolving inta what the forefront Will And Should LooK Like iN the time to come... Of Course THiS JuST One Irishmen's Humble Opinion ![]()
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However the resale of "non crossable" PSA Slabs is never a problem. For this reason - I dont crack - just send slabs for crossover. Note that my collecting interests are post war mid 50s. BTW - I havent seen much difference in success even with the new PSA "Hologram" slabs. Not looking for flames - just posting my personal experience. In my mind SGC hands down offers a more consistently graded product in a better looking holder. SGC Gold Club -Not a fan but thats another post.
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And therein lies the rub. A successful crossover rate from SGC to PSA is also around 40-50%. It seems like these two companies refuse to accept the others work as valid. You also get the same thing in the art industry. I watched an episode of "Fake or Fortune" where one art gallery said a painting was a Renoir, and their competition refused to acknowledge it as such. It's like these two card grading giants refuse to acknowledge that their competitor is any good. |
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I am bringing this thread back to the top to see what our members think *now* of the SGC membership club.
It's been a few months since it was introduced...do you think it's worth it? I am considering joining. I have quite a few SGC cards , all of my prewar sets and HOF singles for example. It's been a relatively slow Prewar year for me, but I have gathered up a stash of cards that I would like to slab. Any new experiences with the Gold club (or whatever it's called) that you care to share?
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Talked to SGC the other day and on the 125 dollar membership, the 10 cards are submitted as 2 5 card vouchers for submission. Probably an average deal overall and if you submitted frequently might pay for itself. For us little guys nothing spectacular here. With all this said, you do get a free tshirt. LOL
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the $5 deal doesn't sound to bad. I wonder why add this though when it is one of the biggest gripes people had about PSA. Having to join to get the best prices.
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