FS: 1948 Leaf Jackie Robinson PSA 5 -

[1952boyntoncollector]

Thanks.

[calvindog]

Uh have you seen the VCP prices on this card in this grade? If you need them to help you price your cards better let me know.

[Bicem]

low ball offer sent.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Uh have you seen the VCP prices on this card in this grade? If you need them to help you price your cards better let me know.

last one sold for 4200 or so....

Edited to add: Last one on ebay sold for $4525 if seach 201673939138 with Watchcount.. on 9/22/16


..i not asking 4x more than the last one sold and i listed a price... Why you not try to list a price on yours before you comment about a price listed..

I guess i should do it your way and list ZERO price and then not answer emails to me.....

Go ahead and keep asking for 'strong offers'



Please give us the VCP for the 1914 Cracker Jack Cobb and Jackson you have listed.. or better yet...why not go crazy and list a price?

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

last one sold for 4100 or so.... ..i not asking 4x more than the last one sold

Plus you commented about b/s/t threads....so i guess you are ok with comments on yours from now on.

Please give us the VCP for the 1914 Cracker Jack Cobb and Jackson you have listed..

For your Robinson, the last sale was a PWCC sale -- cough -- for $4083. The $2750 BIN is ignored as per your comments on my thread. So the last non-PWCC sales were for less than half what you're asking now. As for my Cobb, the last 5 went for 30K.

9/7/16 eBay pwcc_auctions $4,083.00
10/30/15 eBay red-zone BIN $2,750.00
7/8/15 eBay pwcc_auctions $2,143.00
6/14/15 eBay cardsandbrowns $2,225.00
5/4/15 eBay jsokol1626 $2,141.00

And lastly, I'm not ok with you commenting on my BST threads but you do on every one of them. This is my first time commenting on one of your hilariously overpriced BST offerings.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Bicem

low ball offer sent.

nah..that would be if i didnt list a price and then went crazy on an offer that was within 10% of a recent sale price....

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by calvindog

9/7/16 eBay pwcc_auctions $4,083.00
10/30/15 eBay red-zone BIN $2,750.00
7/8/15 eBay pwcc_auctions $2,143.00
6/14/15 eBay cardsandbrowns $2,225.00
5/4/15 eBay jsokol1626 $2,141.00

so last one was 4083 plus shipping yesterday in an open auction almost a year after the last sale you cited which wasnt as good as mine

right BINS dont matter to me (and you still havent listed any auctions prices or sales prices on your thread)

I do count PWCC sales and so do most if not all others. if you want to not count a huge section of the auction market thats up to you. Not sure how you would count a BIN over a pwcc sale.

Lets see the VCP with all sale prices on your cobb and jackson....you listed the prices on mine..


Also i listed a price....you never listed a price. Lets see VCP on Jackson and the Cobb and all future listings...

[calvindog]

I'll offer you 2K on your card. Cash. I mean assuming it's real.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

last one sold for 4200 or so.... ..i not asking

Uh try $4083, I not read $4200 on VCP.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by calvindog

For your Robinson, the last sale was a PWCC sale -- cough -- for $4083. The $2750 BIN is ignored as per your comments on my thread. So the last non-PWCC sales were for less than half what you're asking now. As for my Cobb, the last 5 went for 30K.

9/7/16 eBay pwcc_auctions $4,083.00
10/30/15 eBay red-zone BIN $2,750.00
7/8/15 eBay pwcc_auctions $2,143.00
6/14/15 eBay cardsandbrowns $2,225.00
5/4/15 eBay jsokol1626 $2,141.00

And lastly, I'm not ok with you commenting on my BST threads but you do on every one of them. This is my first time commenting on one of your hilariously overpriced BST offerings.

my offerings are hilariously overpriced? You really going to go that route when you dont list prices and ask for 3x-5x the market price... easy to say someone is overpricing and not give a price on your own

You also said you are not ok with commenting on bst threads....you didnt comment on my t206 green cobbs or 1951 Mays...what hilariously overpriced listings are your referring too? Lets see the prices of your last 5 offerings, if you give a price.


Plus last psa 5 Jackie just sold for $4525 on 9/22/16 on ebay....i wish sellers would lesson to sales data from 5 years ago as well when i want to buy a key rookie card

plus jackie sgc 5 on october 6, 2016 $4494

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1948-Leaf-79...0AAOSwOyJX6TmG

Plus Jackie SGC 5 on October 12 , 2196 $4231

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1948-Leaf-Ja...sAAOSwPCVX8Jdy

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Uh try $4083, I not read $4200 on VCP.

with shipping its over 4100....my price is delivered...sorry i was off by 80 dollars....forgive me

Whats the prices for the 1914 Cobb and Jackson and what is VCP? Dont be a hypocrite if you are going to comment on my b/s/t and say they are priced too high lets see what you are asking for your cards..

[calvindog]

I'm just trying to help you sell your cards! Just like you try to help on my threads. What is the problem? You're getting so upset you might accidentally write a complete sentence.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by calvindog

I'll offer you 2K on your card. Cash. I mean assuming it's real.

and ill offer 8k for your 1914 ty cobb, assuming its real....we can trade them and ill give you 6k..

[calvindog]

Is that paper loss on that top border on the back of the card?

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

and ill offer 8k for your 1914 ty cobb, assuming its real....we can trade them and ill give you 6k..

My Cobb and Jackson are the ultimate waterfront properties. If you want to live on waterfront properties you need to pay up.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by calvindog

I'm just trying to help you sell your cards! Just like you try to help on my threads. What is the problem? You're getting so upset you might accidentally write a complete sentence.

Lets see the prices listed of your cards. Ill just list VCP for you now on all your listings. Dont worry i wont do anything different that what you put on my thread.

ON your thread i commented about issues of not having a price but that was up to you. On my thread i listed a price.

On your thread you are against comments on b/s/t...and look what we have here.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by calvindog

My Cobb and Jackson are the ultimate waterfront properties. If you want to live on waterfront properties you need to pay up.

What is VCP on them including all sales on VCP... Are you asking 280 dollars more than the last sale price like mine?

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Lets see the prices listed of your cards. Ill just list VCP for you now on all your listings. Dont worry i wont do anything different that what you put on my thread.

ON your thread i commented about issues of not having a price but that was up to you. On my thread i listed a price.

On your thread you are against comments on b/s/t...and look what we have here.

How about this? Stop commenting on my threads. What a concept, huh?

And you can comment on every last one of my BST threads with prices; I sell about 4 cards a year, unlike you who sells cards to eat. I'll list the VCP prices on every one of your listings, you know, to help you sell. Deal?

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Ill just list VCP for you now on all your listings.

You'll have to pay for a VCP subscription. Gulp!

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

my offerings are hilariously overpriced? You really going to go that route when you dont list prices and ask for 3x-5x the market price...

Uh, I asked for and got exactly what the last sale on my Leaf Robinson was. Not 2x. Not 3x. Not 4x. Not 5x. But 1x.

And are you aware that a Leaf with perfect centering sometimes is considered waterfront property compared to one that has horrible centering?

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by calvindog

How about this? Stop commenting on my threads. What a concept, huh?

And you can comment on every last one of my BST threads with prices; I sell about 4 cards a year, unlike you who sells cards to eat. I'll list the VCP prices on every one of your listings, you know, to help you sell. Deal?

thats fine. I have a bunch of 1954 Topps to list and you list VCP on all of your listings, maybe you will go crazy and list a price once in awhile..

You can start with the cobb and jackson with VCP to help you sell the cards...

I not comment anything close to what you put on this thread. Plus, I not comment on your thread since however long ago and you comment now.


Whats VCP for the cobb and jackson....since you went to great lengths to list it on my card....its only fair to put it on your listings...

WE have a deal. VCP on all of our listings. You made the offer and I accepted.

Dont reneg....thanks

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

thats fine. I have a bunch of 1954 Topps to list and you list VCP on all of your listings.

You can start with the cobb and jackson, to help you sell the cards...

I not comment anything close to what you put on this thread. Plus, I not comment on your thread since however long ago and you comment now.


Whats VCP for the cobb and jackson....since you went to great lengths to list it on my card....its only fair to put it on your listings...

WE have a deal. VCP on all of our listings. You made the offer and I accepted.

Dont reneg....thanks

I not reneg! I not!

PS -- the reason I can afford cards which are worth 10x your slop is that I actually work during the day as a lawyer instead of spending all my time spouting idiocy on Net 54 and selling 1954 commons. I also not an idiot.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by calvindog

I not reneg! I not!

PS -- the reason I can afford cards which are worth 10x your slop is that I actually work during the day as a lawyer instead of spending all my time spouting idiocy on Net 54 and selling 1954 commons. I also not an idiot.

Right you are rich and i am poor. I not sure what that has to do about making an agreement and not breaking it.


Just because you are a lawyer are you trying to worm your way out of an agreement?

you cant add new criteria after the deal was made...if you not have any time because you are so busy, you seemed to have a lot of time on this thread...

counselor...you made an offer..and i accepted..

Lets see VCP on your listings now. You were so generous to post them on this thread......i also listed a Hank Sauer 1954 Topps..please list VCP there..

You can't keep inventing new conditions...the deal was VCP for both our listings...i have to eat on my listings..

Yet you care so little about your listings that you appear to be afraid to list VCP or break agreements.


Whats the VCP for the Cracker Jack Cobb and Jackson on your listings?

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Is that paper loss on that top border on the back of the card?

yes its ripped in half...


I am still not sure how all of your posts here show that you are not an idiot or how you are against comments on b/s/t on your listings. What you posted here is not even close to what i posted. I dont think its appropriate and not even comparable in any way to anything i have posted.

Ill just reference this thread on any new b/s/ts you list ..even though it will be only 1-4 because you are a rich lawyer..

[calvindog]

You seem upset.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by calvindog

You seem upset.

It seem like you are the one upset my friend. I not post anything more on your thread and the matter was closed. You took the time (even though you are really busy) to make 20 posts or so on my b/s/t listing. Lets see VCP on your listings or a price perhaps. Go crazy unless you are too upset..

Plus you may want to honor the deal you made but i have a feeling you dont honor deals.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Thanks, guys, for the laughs. I'm stuck here at work and you made my lunch hour very entertaining

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Uh, I asked for and got exactly what the last sale on my Leaf Jackson was. Not 2x. Not 3x. Not 4x. Not 5x. But 1x.

And are you aware that a Leaf with perfect centering sometimes is considered waterfront property compared to one that has horrible centering?

Again you are not referencing VCP on that card. You are posting here comments right when i listed the card. So if i sell the card, lets see what i get. As of now im asking for 300 more than the last sale yesterday in an auction. I not remember you listing a price for any cards or a past auction price sale.

I not realize there was a Leaf Jackson by the way. Lets see a picture of that card.. I may pay 30x for that card to the new owner for their Leaf Joe Jackson

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Thanks, guys, for the laughs. I'm stuck here at work and you made my lunch hour very entertaining

Just wait for the next b/s/t listing of Calvindog! Since it appears i can fully comment now on his listings in order to help him sell his cards..

Maybe he will come across another Leaf Joe Jackson (guess he was upset)

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by calvindog

How about this? Stop commenting on my threads. What a concept, huh?

And you can comment on every last one of my BST threads with prices; I sell about 4 cards a year, unlike you who sells cards to eat. I'll list the VCP prices on every one of your listings, you know, to help you sell. Deal?

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=226456

i comment on every last one of his b/s/t threads? Man my comments there was so menacing Wow your posts here are just like mine on yours

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=205942 zero comment

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=202608 zero comment

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=213706 zero comment

[calvindog]

Since I've been on this board I've spent well over 7 figures on cards and not one time - not once - has anyone ever referred to me as either an idiot or a lowballer. Yet those are the only two descriptions I've ever heard when people refer to you. Why do you think that is?

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Since I've been on this board I've spent well over 7 figures on cards and not one time - not once - has anyone ever referred to me as either an idiot or a lowballer. Yet those are the only two descriptions I've ever heard when people refer to you. Why do you think that is?

You are the only person that said i was a lowballer based on your card with NO price listed. (plus i have purchased a Paige and Jackie in the past few weeks on net54)..so you are your own witness as to calling me a lowballer (even though you not answer my offer on that card so first i learned of it on your net54 post. I didnt know you were upset with a 10k+ (i forget the exact amount) cash offer) . Idiot, perhaps. We all have our good days and bad days. People have called you idiot as well.

Plus you dont honor deals such as the one right here on this thread. You also said i posted on all, every last one (which you imply negatively on ALL of your b/s/ts...i count 1..in which YOU engaged in comments invoking my name which prompted my response there.

On every other b/s/t thread i saw zero comments except comments on one other thread which would not be interpreted from anyone to be negative and zero others which was the psa 7 leaf robinson

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=226456

If you think thats posting on all your b/s/ts....your sincerity would be questioned.


Plus paying millions of dollars or making million of dollars does not make someone better than someone else. I look at sincerity and whether people honor deals. I dont care what they do for a living or how rich they are when i deal with people.

I have nothing against you. You have nice cards..even though prices never listed. Just practice what you preach and if you make an offer to someone, they may just accept so perhaps you should refrain from making offers that you cant keep on your end.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

I have nothing against you.

You're still an idiot.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by calvindog

You're still an idiot.

yep you have called me that before. I guess this means we will never get to see VCP on your cracker jacks or see this high dollar Leaf Jackson that you raved about selling

Originally Posted by calvindog

Uh, I asked for and got exactly what the last sale on my Leaf Robinson was. Not 2x. Not 3x. Not 4x. Not 5x. But 1x.

And are you aware that a Leaf with perfect centering sometimes is considered waterfront property compared to one that has horrible centering?

I see you changed/edited your past posting made awhile ago from 'Leaf Jackson' to 'Leaf Robinson' with no commenting when i brought it up. I see you sneaked in the correction. People make mistakes when they are upset. Its ok we all make mistakes. Guess i wont have to pay 20x market price for that a magical Leaf Jackson. Not everyone is an idiot for making mistakes. Anyway, just making sure the record is accurate.

i would like this to be my last post on this thread besides updating card status and pricing. So even though you are so busy, i am sure you will get the chance to post some things here on my b/s/t that you will be proud of.

[Canofcorn]

Nice card. Somebody trolled my last B/S/T here too, so I had to sell
it on Blowout cards. times have changed

[Snapolit1]

Quite a pissing contest. Though running out of juice quickly.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Thanks for the offers thus far.

[111gecko]

It's time:

[ajjohnsonsoxfan]

Gotta be honest here...Jeffrey came off as a bit of a bully in this thread. just sayin

[Snapolit1]

Well, I don't know the history.
I have now had about 15 great transactions here. And I've had a few tire kickers who strung me along through a bunch of emails and sort of wasted my time in a big way. Not bad people. Just a little too much on the inquiries, one more point, sure you can't do better, want to think it over, etc. You know the type. Looking for a reason not to buy. Again, in the grand scheme of things not a major league offense. But this wasn't a house purchase.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by ajjohnsonsoxfan

Gotta be honest here...Jeffrey came off as a bit of a bully in this thread. just sayin

nah saying a card is ridiculously priced and not listing prices for sale on your own thread is normal to do on a b/s/t. Plus a number of other things such as agreeing to put VCP on all listings and then re-negging and then saying I do the same thing on all his threads which isnt further from the truth. Nothing even close on his jackson thread (all i stated was listing a price may prevent low ball offers and then it went on from there based on his responses) and zero issues on any other threads (all but one of them i not post anything) Thats a far cry from what he put on this thread. Also calling the seller an idiot on the seller's own b/s/t thread no less is great form as well. In addition, there were several other posters on that Jackson thread yet he singles me out for his name calling

For someone into VCP, i would assume he could list a price that would reflect price on cards within a few hundred. Afterall he relies on VCP enough to post it on my thread

He also posted great sale on a mystery Leaf Jackson which apparently does not exist..

I have gotten a few offers within a few hundred on this card. If i choose to sell it for that it wont last long.

[ruth-gehrig]

How many more times will Leon have to reiterate the rule?

[pclpads]

Do you two clowns have a burning need to stage a public c*nt fight splayed over 5 pages? Kindly spare the rest of us the dramatics and do it via PM.

[jcc6252]

Originally Posted by pclpads

Do you two clowns have a burning need to stage a public c*nt fight splayed over 5 pages? Kindly spare the rest of us the dramatics and do it via PM.

+1

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by pclpads

Do you two clowns have a burning need to stage a public c*nt fight splayed over 5 pages? Kindly spare the rest of us the dramatics and do it via PM.

If you reset your preferences to 80 posts per page it's only one page.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by pclpads

Do you two clowns have a burning need to stage a public c*nt fight splayed over 5 pages? Kindly spare the rest of us the dramatics and do it via PM.

Its my b/s/t listing....if someone posted that you are an idiot on your very own b/s/t listing and stated your card was overpriced with an explanation that can be challanged, you would just leave it like that on your b/s/t listing?

Its not like its a random thread..its my b/s/t listing...

even if the guy is a rich lawyer and spends millions of dollars and is too busy to post, i should be able to respond to him.

[calvindog]

Yes, and you're still an idiot. For some reason you're the last to find out.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Yes, and you're still an idiot. For some reason you're the last to find out.

another post you can be proud of especially since you made a point that you are so busy at work. You also not to busy to break agreements or to brag how much you sold a Leaf Joe Jackson for which would be a problem since none of them exist and im the idiot

[calvindog]

Jake, it's no accident that a dozen people wrote to me either via PM, email or text about what a complete jackass you are (example: "I cant stand 1952boynton. You put him in place and he is too stupid to realize."). Forget that you write as well as a remedial third grader, that your posts are moronically pedantic -- you have a reputation here for jerking people around on sales, lowballing and having ridiculously high prices. Guess what -- no one has ever said any of those things about me. Yes, I made a typo on one post which will probably be printed up and found on your body when you expire in 40 years. Wonderful. As this board and the BST are things that are important to you, maybe you should recognize that it might be you who is the problem? God knows I'm not the first person to call you an idiot: teachers, friends, your wife if there is a woman unlucky enough, judges, clients, etc.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Jake, it's no accident that a dozen people wrote to me either via PM, email or text about what a complete jackass you are (example: "I cant stand 1952boynton. You put him in place and he is too stupid to realize."). Forget that you write as well as a remedial third grader, that your posts are moronically pedantic -- you have a reputation here for jerking people around on sales, lowballing and having ridiculously high prices. Guess what -- no one has ever said any of those things about me. Yes, I made a typo on one post which will probably be printed up and found on your body when you expire in 40 years. Wonderful. As this board and the BST are things that are important to you, maybe you should recognize that it might be you who is the problem? God knows I'm not the first person to call you an idiot: teachers, friends, your wife if there is a woman unlucky enough, judges, clients, etc.

Yes i got emails about you as well. Plus the people on this thread appear to think you are a bully and trolled the thread. This is my b/s/t thread. You being the only one saying i lowball doesnt exactly mean anything when you are the only one thats saying that. Keep saying that same thing and i think it will probably be printed up and found on your body when you expire in 40 years. You see, it sounds just as cheezy from me as it does from you.

Again this is a b/s/t post...not sure why you continue to disparage me and make up things. You say i price things high compared to you? (if you even give prices) You really going to go with that as your argument?

How much again are you asking for your CJ Cobb ? Oh right, you wont give a price. But you say i ask way to much on my cards

Funny i gets pms about you but i dont care what they say. We all see what you put right here on this thread

Whats the VCP on your listings? How much for that Leaf Cobb or your famous Leaf Jackson. I guess even rich lawyers can make typos when they are upset.

You also say on a man's b/s/t thread listing that his prices are ridiculous. I have already gotten offers within couple of hundred of asking price. Every net54er that posts a later price reduction priced their cards initially in a ridiculous fashion? But you dont even list a price for your cards and have to put on your listings about no lowball offers. Evidently you must be getting a LOT of offers that you deem a lowball that you went out of the way to post that. Like i said, put a price on your card and that could prevent many offers that you deem a lowball

Why you not just put what you want for your Cobb and put VCP as you did here. You cant say one side is overpricing their cards and you fail to list a price for yours if you really want to make that argument.

I can also say your actions on this thread (my b/s/t) are not something to be proud of especially if you are a rich lawyer with little time on your hands.