What's the best Baseball Book Fiction and Non you have read?

[clydepepper]

I am currently being very disappointed by 'Wicked Curve' - bio of Grover Cleveland Alexander.

Best Non-Fiction: The Glory of Their Times

Best Fiction: The Curious Case of Sidd Finch

[Peter_Spaeth]

The Celebrant is really good -- about Mathewson but fiction.

[gracecollector]

Fiction: The Art of Fielding, by Chad Harbach

Non-Fiction: Since Glory of Their Times was already nominated, I'll go with The Boys of Summer by Roger Kahn

Best Illustrated Book: We Are the Ship: The Story of Negro League Baseball by Kadir Nelson (my god this book is gorgeous to look at!)

[ALR-bishop]

....even comes with a baseball card



King, a huge Red Sox fan, also has a book on the 2004 Red Sox Season, Faithful. As a Cardinal's fan I can not bring myself to read that.

One of his other books, not really a sports book, is The Girl Who Loved Tom Gordon

[Paul S]

Fiction -- try The Dixie Association, by Donald Hays.

[Howe’s Hunter]

Uecker at his best.

[Bicem]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

Best Non-Fiction: The Glory of Their Times

Should be required reading for dead-ball era collectors.

Probably my favorite book of any genre.

[slipk1068]

The Fireside Book of Baseball. Any volume is awesome.

[ErikV]

My favorite book was "Luckiest Man" by Jonathan Eig.
Amazing story of a true American hero, and it was wonderfully written.
Really is a must read for any Gehrig fan, or baseball fan for that matter.

http://www.amazon.com/Luckiest-Man-L...rds=lou+Gehrig

[Den*nis O*Brien]

Calico Joe, by John Grisham, is fiction revolving around a baseball incident. Grisham also wrote a non fiction book, The Innocent Man: Murder and Injustice In A Small Town, about a minor league player, in the Yankees system, that wound up on Oklahoma's death row.

[Andy Baran]

If I Never Get Back by Darrell Brock

[jerseygary]

I have hundreds of baseball books in my library and have read thousands more, but if I had to absolutely pick one of each, this would be them...

Best Non-Fiction:
Outsider Baseball by Scott Simkus
As far as I'm concerned the greatest book written about non-MLB baseball and the most important non-fiction baseball book of the past 10 years. Besides being crammed with original research the author is funny as hell and his writing is a joy to read.

Best Fiction: The Natural by Bernard Malamud
I'd seen the movie a dozen times but man oh man, the original book ain't nothing like the movie! If the script writers followed the storyline of the book there's no way it would have been made let alone have Robert Redford star in it.

[Bored5000]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

I am currently being very disappointed by 'Wicked Curve' - bio of Grover Cleveland Alexander.

Really? Not liking "Wicked Curve?" I am a lifelong Phillies fan, so I enjoyed the information on the 1915 pennant winning team and some of the details on obscure players from that team. Perhaps the book does rely too heavily on game-by-game overviews, but I found the section of the book on Alexander's post-baseball life fascinating.

[Milton]

'The Bad Guys Won' is a great book about the NY Mets 1986 season. Lots of great stories in there

[TNP777]

I can't think of too many fictional baseball books I've read. Guess I'll have to go with Calico Joe, too.

The Boys of Summer is my choice for non-fiction. The Catcher Was a Spy is up there, too.

[Eric72]

For Deadball Era fans who have not yet read it, I recommend Crazy '08 by Cait Murphy. It's an enjoyable trip through the 1908 season.

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by Bored5000

Really? Not liking "Wicked Curve?" I am a lifelong Phillies fan, so I enjoyed the information on the 1915 pennant winning team and some of the details on obscure players from that team. Perhaps the book does rely too heavily on game-by-game overviews, but I found the section of the book on Alexander's post-baseball life fascinating.

I'm on page 46 and have already been told that he wore his uniform loose and his cap tight three times. ..but I am looking forward to the post-baseball period.

I do tend to give up on supposedly factual bios once I find the first big error - like the Rube Waddell biography, when, in the preface, I was informed that Radbourn won 60 games in 1870??

[clydepepper]

...a close second place in the non-fiction is Robert W. Creamer's Babe- The Legend Comes to Life.

I believe this is the definitive bio of Ruth and with such a bold subject, the best sports biography I have read.

[TUM301]

Originally Posted by Eric72

For Deadball Era fans who have not yet read it, I recommend Crazy '08 by Cait Murphy. It's an enjoyable trip through the 1908 season.

You are spot on here, just finished it last week. It was like experiencing the whole season with the added bonus of reliving the players ` lives we talk about daily on the net 54. THUMBS UP !

[toppcat]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

The Celebrant is really good -- about Mathewson but fiction.

Yes, that was a good one and probably my fiction choice as well. Boys of Summer for Non Fiction, hands down.

[JimStinson]

Originally Posted by jerseygary

I have hundreds of baseball books in my library and have read thousands more, but if I had to absolutely pick one of each, this would be them...

Best Non-Fiction:
Outsider Baseball by Scott Simkus
As far as I'm concerned the greatest book written about non-MLB baseball and the most important non-fiction baseball book of the past 10 years. Besides being crammed with original research the author is funny as hell and his writing is a joy to read.

Best Fiction: The Natural by Bernard Malamud
I'd seen the movie a dozen times but man oh man, the original book ain't nothing like the movie! If the script writers followed the storyline of the book there's no way it would have been made let alone have Robert Redford star in it.

Non Fiction "The Glory of their Times" ..Larry Ritter , I knew him personally and he was so modest about the book , Also what I thought was amazing is that he did an equal split on royalties and many family members received checks from Larry Long after the player had died.

Fiction : Still have not found a good one yet , but agree with this post the book "The NATURAL" was AWFUL ! Movie FAR better than the book
____________________
jim@stinsonsports.com

Vintage autographs for Sale Daily
stinsonsports.com

[frankbmd]

The Universal Baseball Association, Inc., J. Henry Waugh, Proprietor

By Coover

[Wite3]

Fiction is "The Celebrant"...wonderful book.

Non-Fiction: "Teammates" by Halberstamm is a great look at Williams, D. Dimaggio, Pesky, and Doerr.

Honorary mention: The Great American Baseball Card Flipping, Trading, and Bubble Gum Book.

Joshua

[Nashvol]

Non-fiction: "The Glory of Their Times" by Lawrence Ritter (hands down IMHO) followed by "Branch Rickey" by Lee Lowenfish.

Just finished "Baseball's Natural, The Story of Eddie Waitkus" by John Theodore this morning. Great background for "The Natural" by Bernard Malamud.

Fiction: "Angels at Rickwood" by Chuck Stewart (Shameless plug: I know the author; but it really is a great book to share with your kids)

[clydepepper]

...is that I am picking up tips on more books I should own.

At my age, I am supposed to be decreasing my library.

[GregMitch34]

"Joy in Mudville" by some hack named Greg Mitchell.

[MooseDog]

Non Fiction - The Glory of Their Times and Boys of Summer are head and shoulders above.

Fiction - I'm not much of a fiction reader but I did enjoy The Art of Fielding.

[mattsey9]

Non-Fiction: John Helyar's Lords of the Realm is one I keep turning back to. Keith Hernandez has a book that I can't remember the title of that documents his thought processes for one MLB game. Great stuff.

Rob Ruck's Raceball and anything by Adrian Burgos also fit the bill for the historian in me.

[Jerry G]

Fiction: Shoeless Joe by W. P. Kinsella (Loved the movie, Field of Dreams, but the book is even better.)

Non-Fiction: October 1964 by David Halbersam. Lots of info on the first Cardinal's World Series of my life.

[bobbvc]

"Ball Four" needs to be mentioned. Loved "Glory of their Times" also, but that's 2 Non-fiction.

[obcbobd]

Non-Fiction. So many. Babe, The Legend Comes to Life.

Fiction. Bang the Drum Slowly

[Bosox Blair]

Originally Posted by Jerry G

Fiction: Shoeless Joe by W. P. Kinsella (Loved the movie, Field of Dreams, but the book is even better.)

Was just reading this thread for the first time...astounded that it took until page 3 for someone to list this classic book! Also loved Kinsella's The Iowa Baseball Confederacy.

Cheers,
Blair

[CobbvLajoie1910]

Save GOTT (the clear #1), the non-fiction list begins & ends with Charles Alexander's Ty Cobb. IMHO, it's the finest bio of its kind.

Hank's bio on WaJo ain't half bad either.

[darwinbulldog]

Fiction -- If I Never Get Back

Non-fiction -- Babe: The Legend Comes to Life

[byrone]

"Veeck and in Wreck" is my favourite baseball book. Usually read it once a year.

Haven't read any non-fiction baseball books.

[bbcard1]

Ball Four for nonfiction, Box Socials for fiction, but it is not a book with that many fans

[wolf441]

Non-Fiction - Glory of Their Times is no contest, so I'll nominate a lesser known work: Fifty-nine in '84 - Old Hoss Radbourn, Barehanded Baseball and the Greatest Season a Pitcher Ever Had by Edward Achorn. Met the author and he was a heck of a nice guy. I also LOVE Radbourn's passion for sneaking in a flip of the bird in almost ever photo of him!

Fiction - The Iowa Baseball Confederacy by W.P. Kinsella. I also loved If I Never Get Back by Darryl Brock, which was already nominated.

[Chris D.]

Originally Posted by wolf441

Non-Fiction - Glory of Their Times is no contest, so I'll nominate a lesser known work: Fifty-nine in '84 - Old Hoss Radbourn, Barehanded Baseball and the Greatest Season a Pitcher Ever Had by Edward Achorn. Met the author and he was a heck of a nice guy. I also LOVE Radbourn's passion for sneaking in a flip of the bird in almost ever photo of him!

Fiction - The Iowa Baseball Confederacy by W.P. Kinsella. I also loved If I Never Get Back by Darryl Brock, which was already nominated.

Just downloaded 59 in '84 to read on vacation next week.

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by Bored5000

Really? Not liking "Wicked Curve?" I am a lifelong Phillies fan, so I enjoyed the information on the 1915 pennant winning team and some of the details on obscure players from that team. Perhaps the book does rely too heavily on game-by-game overviews, but I found the section of the book on Alexander's post-baseball life fascinating.

Eddie- Thanks for the 'pep' talk by way of a positive review on what lies ahead in this book. I am enjoying it a little more.

Learned a little more about Hans Lobert - have a Turkey Red of him.

A quote from Huey Fullerton and Alexander's detailed description of his own injury in September of 1915 were very interesting.

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by Bosox Blair

Was just reading this thread for the first time...astounded that it took until page 3 for someone to list this classic book! Also loved Kinsella's The Iowa Baseball Confederacy.

Cheers,
Blair

I tried real hard to like the two Kinsella books. Shoeless Joe lost me when he built only left-field...truly odd.

I took more time on the Iowa Baseball Confederacy - actually finished it...but when you have a statue playing right-field and a time-traveling balloon landing in center...just too much.

[Bored5000]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

Eddie- Thanks for the 'pep' talk by way of a positive review on what lies ahead in this book. I am enjoying it a little more.

I didn't want to give you too much of a "spoiler" about the book, but your post about the repeated mentions of GCA wearing his cap too tight made me chuckle. Even Babe Ruth dreaded seeing Alexander come into game seven of the 1926 World Series...his cap too small for his head.

[nebboy]

Originally Posted by Wite3

Fiction is "The Celebrant"...wonderful book.

Non-Fiction: "Teammates" by Halberstamm is a great look at Williams, D. Dimaggio, Pesky, and Doerr.

Honorary mention: The Great American Baseball Card Flipping, Trading, and Bubble Gum Book.

Joshua

( The Great American Baseball card book)
I love that little book it always puts a smile on my face

[bgar3]

I support the aforementioned, Celebrant, Universal Baseball Association, GOTT, the Great American Baseball Card Flipping ...,. Under the fiction catagory some of the best mysteries are the ones by Troy Soos, especially Murder at Fenway Park (about 1912) and The Cincinnati Red Stalkings (about 1869 memorabilia).

I also think the older classic histories are still great reads, eg, America's National Game, histories by Spink, Richter, Church and Ellard's, Baseball in Cincinnati. Newer histories like Block's Baseball Before We Knew It, and Thorn's, Baseball in the Garden of Eden are excellent

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by jerseygary

Best Fiction: The Natural by Bernard Malamud
I'd seen the movie a dozen times but man oh man, the original book ain't nothing like the movie! If the script writers followed the storyline of the book there's no way it would have been made let alone have Robert Redford star in it.

Absolutely agree with this...'The Natural' is my favorite book. I love the movie too, but they are nothing alike.

[Wite3]

I do have to mention one of the earliest histories which I found fascinating...

Jacob Morse wrote Sphere and Ash in 1888...it is arguably the earliest history of baseball. If you really enjoy the early history of baseball, this is a cool book.

Now, I think there are only two or three original copies left around in private collections (the book collectors can tell me more) but it has been reprinted twice. Both reprint versions were very limited as well and can be pricey. Have not checked amazon in a while for it but it might be there.

BTW, I think REA had one in their last auction that went for well above my paygrade (I think last I checked it was north of $3000!!).

Joshua

[joeadcock]

Originally Posted by bobbvc

"Ball Four" needs to be mentioned. Loved "Glory of their Times" also, but that's 2 Non-fiction.

Agree on the BALL FOUR

[LKeeler]

My favorite non-fiction baseball book, and one of my favorite books ever read, is "The Ticket Out: Darryl Strawberry and The Boys of Crenshaw" by Michael Sokolove. Extremely poignant story about the lives of youngsters growing up in South Central LA and their love for the game.

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by Chris D.

Just downloaded 59 in '84 to read on vacation next week.

GREAT book. Some others:

"Crazy '08"
"Living on the Black"
"The Big Bam"
"Glory of Their Times"
"The Pitch That Killed"
"Ted Williams: The Biography of an American Hero"
"Ball Four"

I'm sure I'm missing tons of others. I've read lots and lots of great non-fiction baseball books. I've read hardly any poor ones - the Cobb books by (the fraud) Al Stump and Jane Leavy's awful bio of Sandy Koufax being the only two that come to mind.

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

Originally Posted by Den*nis O*Brien

Calico Joe, by John Grisham, is fiction revolving around a baseball incident. Grisham also wrote a non fiction book, The Innocent Man: Murder and Injustice In A Small Town, about a minor league player, in the Yankees system, that wound up on Oklahoma's death row.

I agree this was a great book.

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

Spalding's World Tour is a great non-fiction book about Al Spalding's 19th century baseball tour.