Any ideas on these?

[pencil1974]

So I was cleaning up around my cards and came across two things I had forgotten about. I posted the Ruth/Lloyd on the main forum but I figured I might have better luck here.

The Ruth is 7x9 on a really, really heavy stock. But does not seem to be a photo just per say because of the quality, looks a bit rough airbrushed in the background and the details around the hands looks almost drawn.

The Cobb seems to be a photo but I don't know a ton about photos so looking for help. It is 2.5 x 4 9/16.

Both are period, I put the Cobb on a black light with a non-vintage print I had to show that its not just a print out on an ink jet.

Any help would be great.

Thanks,
Brad