Rare T206 Upside Down Back Southern League Post if u Own One

[mrvster]

Hello All!

Who ever won the T206 Carlos Smith Upside Down O.M. Southern League in the Goodwin Auction got, imho, a killer deal! went super cheap! 3K or so with the juice...I think that was a 5-6 K card + easily should have gone....considering brown om will go 2 x that value probably....

Please post if you own one of these rarities(southern league Uppy O.M. printers scrap)....these are 2 X rarer than BROWN OM and have not even been recognized.....they are similar to brown om in the fact that they are all survivors of a printers scrap sheet...

there are approx. 12-15 examples of Brown OM known to exist...

there are approx. 4 or so known uppy OM Southern Leaguers known to exist...
these were all hand cut from one sheet obviously...

Brown OM had an ink differentiation....Uppy's had a backwards print set up..

HART, THEBO, SMITH, KING....


are the examples I have seen so far.....I own the THEBO(Thank GOD

my pic will follow shortly

[E93]

While upside down backs are very cool, in my opinion they are in a different category than brown Old Mill for the simple reason that if somebody is going for a complete T206 back run of 39, they need the brown Old Mill but they do not need the upside down back. There are more back run collectors than error collectors. Just me .02, and not meant to take anything away from the coolness or rarity of upside down backs.
JimB

[mrvster]

just trying to point out the parallel with Brown OM on scarcity level......they are pretty much essentially different species in the same phylum? technically brown om is an "error" same as uppy om

[MVSNYC]

Here's one of the 4 known examples. Thanks to Chris for the deal...I've since had SGC put "upside down back" on the flip.

[mrvster]

of the beauties!

Thanks Mike! you are my bro o' a different mo

btw Jim b....your collection is INSANE!!

[MVSNYC]

Thanks JV- you have one of the 4, no? post it!

[Bpm0014]

That Hart is sick! Nice card!

[mrvster]

Chris was going to post for me....do you have my scan?? I wanted him to post all 4 together.....he's a little busy right now, can you?

[MVSNYC]

Thanks Brendan!

Johnny- will post scans of your card, for ya.

[mrvster]

thanks!! I sent you front scan....can you find the King and Smith and post all 4?? want to show 'em lined up....maybe with this thread, we can find a 5th....

lets put the partial sheet together

[MVSNYC]

Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeere's Johnny's...

[mrvster]

Thanks my friend! that's 2.....I wonder if a board member snagged the Smith? has anyone seen any others??

King and Smith left to be posted....hopefully we'll discover another sister sheet card

[teetwoohsix]

Johnny, Mike, awesome cards guys! Love 'em

The person who picked up the Smith now owns a very rare T206- congrats on that!

Thanks for posting those-

Sincerely, Clayton

[mrvster]

Thanks my friend...imagine a brown om uppy??

[teetwoohsix]

Originally Posted by mrvster

Thanks my friend...imagine a brown om uppy??

That would be quite a find, one can dream right?

Sincerely, Clayton

[atx840]

Great cards guys. True gems.

[MVSNYC]

Isn't Leon's scrap an upside down back brown OM?

For the record, I hate the term 'uppy'.

[mrvster]

I don't think his is upside down?

let's see if we can't confirm another sister card off the sheet....

any more u.s.d.b. 's out there?? southern leaguers??? ( u s d b's= up-side down backs)

Chris

can you post all 4 together???(hart, king, thebo, and smith)



please?

[MVSNYC]

JV- good call. i actually already use that (USDB) whenever i email Chris about them...let's make that the new term. not sure i've made it clear enough how much i hate "uppy".

Leon- isn't that a brown OM USDB in there?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by MVSNYC

JV- good call. i actually already use that (USDB) whenever i email Chris about them...let's make that the new term. not sure i've made it clear enough how much i hate "uppy".

Leon- isn't that a brown OM USDB in there?

No, actually the back pic you have shown is upside down so if turned over correctly it is the Cy Young portrait that is upside down and the Brown Old Mill is right side up.

[mrvster]

I'm too obsessed with these

lol

usdb 's! let's term them

btw- thanks Clayton B

[MVSNYC]

Leon- oh.

Why did you orient the scan that way?

[mrvster]

Do your magic and post all 4 lined up

[Leon]

Originally Posted by MVSNYC

Leon- oh.

Why did you orient the scan that way?

If this question was for me it's because I like seeing Cy's head right side up instead of upside down..

[MVSNYC]

Leon- that question was for you, was just curious. insane card no matter how it's oriented.

[Ladder7]

Retired (from collecting too), living on Cocoa Bch, longboarding, drinking carrot juice and soaking up rays!

Incidentally, I lived in the Upham's Corner hood of Boston when I was a kid. We called it "Uppies" for short. So, I like your term.

[mrvster]

THANKS MY FRIEND!

great to hear from you! there is the sister scrap Southern leaguer off the same scrap sheet

WHAT a BEAUTY!

someone took there time cutting these from the sheet

We miss your posts!

[mrvster]

Please line up the 3 here with the Smith from the last GOODWIN and line all 4 backs together in one pic!

(my cropping skills sux)

[atx840]

Interesting that these 4 are part of a subgroup of 14 SLers that do not show up with brown Hindu backs. They are definitely linked.

[mrvster]

That's INCREDIBLE!!

[MVSNYC]

SICK!! Thanks for posting Chris.

[teetwoohsix]

Originally Posted by mrvster

That's INCREDIBLE!!

+1 Wow!! Amazing

Sincerely, Clayton

[DixieBaseball]

Guys - Great stuff... Here's my contribution to the upside down Old Mill SLer's thread. Of course its not a T206, but this player was part of the original 8 SL proofs from the T206 set, so you can't get much closer than that...

[mrvster]

Dude...That is both RARE and SICK

[DixieBaseball]

Originally Posted by mrvster

Dude...That is both RARE and SICK

Thanks! I have not showed it in awhile and it needs to be dusted off at least once a quarter... It's pretty nasty. Wish I had KO's Proof Pepe to go with it!

[MVSNYC]

Sick OM! You should post the back upside down, like it is in real life.

[DixieBaseball]

Originally Posted by MVSNYC

Sick OM! You should post the back upside down, like it is in real life.

Your right. Why I am trying to right a wrong !? Ok, I fixed it. (See scan)

[MVSNYC]

Originally Posted by DixieBaseball

Your right. Why I am trying to right a wrong !? Ok, I fixed it. (See scan)

Bravo. Awesome card you have there, upside down AND drastic miscut.

[mrvster]

R u kiddin'?????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek :

I just had heart palpatations(not kidding)......

when I saw that PROOF!!

I'M BLIND!

OMG.....next to having a Wagner....a literal dream for me is to own a T206 Proof/non production card/ issued....or a design change proof...

you can ask a few members how I feel about a T206 proof/ design/ non issued / produced/ new player ....

words can not describe that card...

I hate to ask.....but I would like to be the first if you ever decide to part with it...I have a lot to trade,

I'm still blown away....

[Sean]

Johnny, if you mean that Pepe proof, it belongs to Keith Olbermann. So good luck with that.

I'll PM you tomorrow when I have more time.

[mrvster]

phew....thanks for the reality check

[MVSNYC]

Haha...Johnny, go do a shot of Patron and cool down.



I believe there are only 8 (or 9) non-production proofs in existence, and KO owns all of them. they were sold as a lot in a Lelands Auction circa 1999. they were Charlie Sheen's, i think.

[DixieBaseball]

Originally Posted by mrvster

phew....thanks for the reality check

LOL... Glad you didn't palpitate for too long over that Pepe proof! I put in the comments beside it "I wished I owned KO's proof." I am betting you glossed over that and just went straight to the Eye Candy! Hilarious... Mr. Olberman also has the other 7 SL Proofs. Incredible.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by DixieBaseball

LOL... Glad you didn't palpitate for too long over that Pepe proof! I put in the comments beside it "I wished I owned KO's proof." I am betting you glossed over that and just went straight to the Eye Candy! Hilarious... Mr. Olberman also has the other 7 SL Proofs. Incredible.

He also owns the Collins proof.

[mrvster]

I thought one had slipped out! gimme that shot