vcp help

[JoeyF1981]

Can somebody give me the vcp value for a T202 cy young psa 2..Id greatly appreciate it

[sb1]

Consult Card Target above in the banners, much more up to date and accurate.

[sb1]

Consult Card Target above in the banners, much more up to date and accurate.
AND it's free!

[thehoodedcoder]

sounds like self promotion? lol. do you own cardtarget.com?

kevin

[the 'stache]

Why don't you take some of that money you make selling cards that were supposed to be returned, and buy yourself a subscription to VCP?

[JoeyF1981]

Originally Posted by the 'stache

Why don't you take some of that money you make selling cards that were supposed to be returned, and buy yourself a subscription to VCP?

That were supposed to be returned????

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by sb1

Consult Card Target above in the banners, much more up to date and accurate.

I'll have to give them a shot. I'm tired of VCP failing to capture sale, after sale, after sale.

[t206blogcom]

Originally Posted by JoeyF1981

Can somebody give me the vcp value for a T202 cy young psa 2..Id greatly appreciate it

7/28/13 eBay $255.00
8/14/11 eBay $204.50
10/2/08 eBay $183.50
2/1/07 eBay $219.16

[the 'stache]

Originally Posted by JoeyF1981

That were supposed to be returned????

Originally Posted by JoeyF1981

Can somebody give me the vcp value for a T202 cy young psa 2..Id greatly appreciate it

^^ Just to make sure this isn't stealth edited later

Thread Title: JoeyF/Blackitalian/Sam1952/Jboog busted on the NET54...

http://forums.collectors.com/message...89&STARTPAGE=1

From mrmint23 on CU forum:
Example....wins card for 1000...receives and ask for a refund due to card doesnt look as nice in hand...keep in mind he can still neg the buyer since he hasnt left feedback...so buyer agrees to discount the price...refunds 200...thus Joey has 800 in the card...Joey in turn sells the card for 950 thus making 150 and selling the card for cheaper than others on eBay.....Feedback Blackmail....guess that is where he got the name Blackitalian...

From purduepete on CU forum:

I think he's been banned from here - and it sounds like he's on the verge of getting booted from Net54 soon.

He still posts over on the SGC forums though...and it's the same cr@p that he used here.

"Can I get help with VCP on card X in a PSA 3?", or "Does this card look trimmed?"...etc. - always on a high profile card that he intends to buy for his collection, and they always end up for sale on the B/S/T or ebay a few days later.

Hmm...very interesting.

[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by thehoodedcoder

sounds like self promotion? lol. do you own cardtarget.com?

kevin

CardTarget is nothing new, and been talked about on the board regularly. I've been using it for months (whenever they started advertising) and think it rocks.. And they seem to be regularly expanding their free database to include new sets.

Couldn't be happier, and between tracking auctions and compiling my own card/price database, and using Cardtarget, I frankly can't imagine paying for the service

[JoeyF1981]

Originally Posted by the 'stache

^^ Just to make sure this isn't stealth edited later

Thread Title: JoeyF/Blackitalian/Sam1952/Jboog busted on the NET54...

http://forums.collectors.com/message...89&STARTPAGE=1



From purduepete on CU forum:


Hmm...very interesting.

Stache- this has all been dealt with awhile ago and I was cleared of the sam accusation so please dont bring up old stuff. Leon allowed me back on here to start fresh and thats what im doing. If you really have concerns then we can talk about it personally, but what youre doing is starting something that was already settled. I asked for a favor and unless youre willing to help please dont respond

[JoeyF1981]

Originally Posted by t206blogcom

7/28/13 eBay $255.00
8/14/11 eBay $204.50
10/2/08 eBay $183.50
2/1/07 eBay $219.16

Thanks alot!

[the 'stache]

Fair enough, Joey. I hope your intentions are honorable. Time will tell.

[JoeyF1981]

Originally Posted by the 'stache

Fair enough, Joey. I hope your intentions are honorable. Time will tell.

All im asking for is a fair chance to make things right. Im on here to learn from you guys so I dont make the same mistakes as before. My intentions are most definintly honorable. But I will take your advice and get a subscription

[Leon]

Originally Posted by the 'stache

Fair enough, Joey. I hope your intentions are honorable. Time will tell.

I believe in second chances.

[the 'stache]

Originally Posted by itjclarke

Couldn't be happier, and between tracking auctions and compiling my own card/price database, and using Cardtarget, I frankly can't imagine paying for the service

Ian, the more I talk to you, or read what you write, the more I think we could be friends.

I've become an Excel nut. When I'm not crunching numbers for fantasy baseball, I'm tracking price history for the modern cards I buy. I'm sure I'll be doing it when I get into buying the vintage cards, too.

If it's ok, I might pick your brain when I start buying in earnest. Who knows, I might be able to refine how I do it.

[the 'stache]

Originally Posted by JoeyF1981

All im asking for is a fair chance to make things right. Im on here to learn from you guys so I dont make the same mistakes as before. My intentions are most definintly honorable. But I will take your advice and get a subscription

Joey, the only thing I hope you take from our interaction here is that I am fiercely protective of this forum, as Net 54 has become a second, extended family to me. The people I have met here are friendly, and kind, and they do everything within their power to keep the hobby as safe as possible. That means watching out for questionable activity on Ebay, or here. I am trying to help in that regard, nothing more.

All I need to know is that you are man enough to admit the mistakes you've made in the past. That takes a lot of guts, and I commend you for it. I'd shake your hand if I could. Secondly, Leon is satisfied with what you've told him, and that's enough for me.

I hope you are an active participant in the forum for years to come. Please accept my apologies. No hard feelings.

Originally Posted by Leon

I believe in second chances.

As do I, Leon. I don't think there's a single person here, or anywhere for that matter, who hasn't made a mistake at some point in their life. It's how we grow after the fact that defines who we are.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by the 'stache

Joey, the only thing I hope you take from our interaction here is that I am fiercely protective of this forum, as Net 54 has become a second, extended family to me. The people I have met here are friendly, and kind, and they do everything within their power to keep the hobby as safe as possible. That means watching out for questionable activity on Ebay, or here. I am trying to help in that regard, nothing more.

All I need to know is that you are man enough to admit the mistakes you've made in the past. That takes a lot of guts, and I commend you for it. I'd shake your hand if I could. Secondly, Leon is satisfied with what you've told him, and that's enough for me.

I hope you are an active participant in the forum for years to come. Please accept my apologies. No hard feelings.



As do I, Leon. I don't think there's a single person here, or anywhere for that matter, who hasn't made a mistake at some point in their life. It's how we grow after the fact that defines who we are.

We are in total agreement. And btw, Joey's (hi Joey) earlier misdeeds didn't go unnoticed. For now he isn't allowed on our BST areas nor is he allowed to post about BST stuff on this board. It's going to take some time. He is acting maturely about it too. That says a lot to me.

[JoeyF1981]

Originally Posted by the 'stache

Joey, the only thing I hope you take from our interaction here is that I am fiercely protective of this forum, as Net 54 has become a second, extended family to me. The people I have met here are friendly, and kind, and they do everything within their power to keep the hobby as safe as possible. That means watching out for questionable activity on Ebay, or here. I am trying to help in that regard, nothing more.

All I need to know is that you are man enough to admit the mistakes you've made in the past. That takes a lot of guts, and I commend you for it. I'd shake your hand if I could. Secondly, Leon is satisfied with what you've told him, and that's enough for me.

I hope you are an active participant in the forum for years to come. Please accept my apologies. No hard feelings.



As do I, Leon. I don't think there's a single person here, or anywhere for that matter, who hasn't made a mistake at some point in their life. It's how we grow after the fact that defines who we are.

No problem at all. I definintly understand where youre coming from and I have made alot of mistakes and I apologize for acting like a douche bag at time and causing problems. Im really enjoying being on here and enjoying the hobby. Thank you for giving me a chance to prove myself on here. It took alot to come back on here and admit my mistakes, but was prepared to do whatever it took to earn a 2nd chance. Thanks again for your feedback. Hope I can learn more about the hobby from you

[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by the 'stache

If it's ok, I might pick your brain when I start buying in earnest. Who knows, I might be able to refine how I do it.

Absolutely Bill, shoot me an email or message anytime. I've got thousands of scans with prices of auctions going back to about 2009. I started mostly with cards I owned, to get a sense of their values, but then broadened to include anything I'm interested in. It's very manual process, and a lot have slipped through the cracks, but it always gives me a really nice basis when trying to gauge how much I'll be willing to spend.

... And CardTarget still rocks!

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by itjclarke

CardTarget is nothing new, and been talked about on the board regularly. I've been using it for months (whenever they started advertising) and think it rocks.. And they seem to be regularly expanding their free database to include new sets.

Couldn't be happier, and between tracking auctions and compiling my own card/price database, and using Cardtarget, I frankly can't imagine paying for the service

I must have been living under a rock, because this is the first that I remember hearing about it (Scott's post above).

Thanks for the info, guys!

Is this going to continue be a free service or do they plan on charging at some point? I'm just curious how they generate revenue? Advertisers?

Anyway, I just went to Card Target for the first time and it's pretty cool and it looks much better than VCP.

I bought a 1955 Topps SGC 84 Jackie Robinson on eBay last month and VCP failed to capture the sale. I know, its not pre-war, but the era of the card shouldn't matter - what's important is VCP is failing to capture sales right and left. Sure enough, Card Target shows it.

Here is a link to the eBay auction...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/130935406369

Card Target shows it and VCP does not.

I'm sure if Bobby reads this, he's going to make up some lame excuse just like last time I showed him that VCP was failing to capture sales - said it was a glitch or something, but instead of going back and correcting it, he chose to ignore it. That says a lot about their customer service IMO.

Remind me to cancel my VCP membership tomorrow.

[JoeyF1981]

Originally Posted by Leon

We are in total agreement. And btw, Joey's (hi Joey) earlier misdeeds didn't go unnoticed. For now he isn't allowed on our BST areas nor is he allowed to post about BST stuff on this board. It's going to take some time. He is acting maturely about it too. That says a lot to me.

Honestly im just grateful you allowed me back on here..I really appreciate it

[the 'stache]

Originally Posted by itjclarke

Absolutely Bill, shoot me an email or message anytime. I've got thousands of scans with prices of auctions going back to about 2009. I started mostly with cards I owned, to get a sense of their values, but then broadened to include anything I'm interested in. It's very manual process, and a lot have slipped through the cracks, but it always gives me a really nice basis when trying to gauge how much I'll be willing to spend.

... And CardTarget still rocks!

Thank you, Ian. I absolutely will.

I'm stuck on my laptop for a while as my leg heals. Once I'm back up and around, and can sit at my desktop computer, it will be easier for me to work on the spreadsheets. By then, too, I should be able to start buying the cards I want.

By the way, I took my first in-depth look at Card Tonight. What an incredible resource. No need to ever use VCP.

[the 'stache]

Originally Posted by Leon

We are in total agreement. And btw, Joey's (hi Joey) earlier misdeeds didn't go unnoticed. For now he isn't allowed on our BST areas nor is he allowed to post about BST stuff on this board. It's going to take some time. He is acting maturely about it too. That says a lot to me.

Being able to do business here, be it trading, or buying and selling, is a privilege. We all trust your instincts, Leon. When you are satisfied that he has amply demonstrated his maturation, we will be ready to welcome him.

[the 'stache]

Originally Posted by JoeyF1981

No problem at all. I definintly understand where youre coming from and I have made alot of mistakes and I apologize for acting like a douche bag at time and causing problems. Im really enjoying being on here and enjoying the hobby. Thank you for giving me a chance to prove myself on here. It took alot to come back on here and admit my mistakes, but was prepared to do whatever it took to earn a 2nd chance. Thanks again for your feedback. Hope I can learn more about the hobby from you

Joey, I've been on a lot of forums, and I can honestly say you won't find a finer discussion board anywhere. If you are serious, and want to learn about our hobby, this is the place to do it. The breadth of knowledge here is simply astounding, and our members are both helpful, and generous with their time.

The best thing you can do right now is to become an active member of the forum. Engage in the discussions, educate yourself, and as your knowledge of all things pertaining to vintage and pre-war cards and memorabilia grows, help those who are just starting out. This is how you will ingratiate yourself.

Good luck, and most of all, have fun!

[Sean1125]

I talked with Joey in the past and he disclosed quite a bit of personal information to me. I think he is committed to a change. Card forums make you grow up, and very quickly. I know I have come a very long way from when I first signed up on the CU forums.

[BobbyVCP]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

I must have been living under a rock, because this is the first that I remember hearing about it (Scott's post above).

Thanks for the info, guys!

Is this going to continue be a free service or do they plan on charging at some point? I'm just curious how they generate revenue? Advertisers?

Anyway, I just went to Card Target for the first time and it's pretty cool and it looks much better than VCP.

I bought a 1955 Topps SGC 84 Jackie Robinson on eBay last month and VCP failed to capture the sale. I know, its not pre-war, but the era of the card shouldn't matter - what's important is VCP is failing to capture sales right and left. Sure enough, Card Target shows it.

Here is a link to the eBay auction...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/130935406369

Card Target shows it and VCP does not.

I'm sure if Bobby reads this, he's going to make up some lame excuse just like last time I showed him that VCP was failing to capture sales - said it was a glitch or something, but instead of going back and correcting it, he chose to ignore it. That says a lot about their customer service IMO.

Remind me to cancel my VCP membership tomorrow.

You are correct that one listing is not in our system yet because it is a BIN. I just did some checking their sales against ours and from what I can see we have everyone of their sales except theyseems to be missing a few.

SGC 84

5/5/13 ebay 1esswap 405.01
3/7/13 ebay nc-vintage 435.00
5/5/13 ebay psagems1 411.00
7/25/12 SCP 483.60

Then for the fun of it I checked PSA 7 and
found the following missing from CT.

7/21/13 ebay klinger83 378.00
7/20/13 ebay ishm 360.55
3/6/13 ebay thepriceoftheirtoys 450.00
3/1/13 ebay scrbay 381.00
10/24/12 ebay stevenovella 391.00
7/11/12 ebay dslsport 319.00
4/5/12 ebay cardmrchnt6ta4 460.00
3/1812 ebay tcarman4 381.00
2/19/12 ebay end_timer 445.00
1/25/12 ebay hoopersarizona 400.00
1/22/12 ebay jmdvm 361.00
1/14/12 ebay jh9287 382.89
12/2/11 Bussineau 360.00

So please if you say we do not capture everything yes that is true for sure but we try our best and from the look of things we capture a hell of a lot more data then CT. Matter of a fact he was a member at VCP for almost 5 years before leaving us and started doing pricing on CT so I would imagine that a lot of his records where scrapped from us.

Think the facts speak for themselves. But I do admit you do get what you pay for and they are free so they are allowed to miss data points. Because we charge god forbid we miss a single sale. Again we work our asses off trying to give you everything and I am really sorry if a sale slips past us every once in awhile. Alert us and of course we will look into why it was missed and try to correct the problem so it does not happen again.

Aloha,

Bobby

[thehoodedcoder]

seems to be missing a few 7's that i bought in the last year as well but those were auctions.

kevin

[ScottFandango]

Well if Joey is "reformed" you can't tell from his threads he starts...

Copied from another board January 2012:

"Can I get help with VCP on card X in a PSA 3?", or "Does this card look trimmed?"...etc. - always on a high profile card that he intends to buy for his collection, and they always end up for sale on the B/S/T or ebay a few days later.

Seems like the EXACT SAME M.O.

[JoeyF1981]

Originally Posted by ScottFandango

Well if Joey is "reformed" you can't tell from his threads he starts...

Copied from another board January 2012:

"Can I get help with VCP on card X in a PSA 3?", or "Does this card look trimmed?"...etc. - always on a high profile card that he intends to buy for his collection, and they always end up for sale on the B/S/T or ebay a few days later.

Seems like the EXACT SAME M.O.

I havent sold anything on ebay for awhile or anything for that matter. And also whenever I am allowed to sell on here I can decide to sell them for whatever I want if someones willing to buy them. Why would the price I sell them for be any of your concern anyways??? I have 3 cards in my collection because I sold almost all my cards awhile ago so I can start focusing on cards I know im really going to keep and not make the same mistakes as before. And you said cards I "intend" to buy which I can tell you I dont buy every card I ask for info on. I may have done that in the past. And so you know I have 2 t202's and a derek jeter rc and some autographs in my collection that arent going anywhere

[JoeyF1981]

Originally Posted by ScottFandango

Well if Joey is "reformed" you can't tell from his threads he starts...

Copied from another board January 2012:

"Can I get help with VCP on card X in a PSA 3?", or "Does this card look trimmed?"...etc. - always on a high profile card that he intends to buy for his collection, and they always end up for sale on the B/S/T or ebay a few days later.

Seems like the EXACT SAME M.O.

January 2012! Lol...give me a break man...that was over a year and a half ago

[Leon]

Originally Posted by ScottFandango

Well if Joey is "reformed" you can't tell from his threads he starts...

Copied from another board January 2012:

"Can I get help with VCP on card X in a PSA 3?", or "Does this card look trimmed?"...etc. - always on a high profile card that he intends to buy for his collection, and they always end up for sale on the B/S/T or ebay a few days later.

Seems like the EXACT SAME M.O.

That is a year and a half ago. I/we was aware of those issues. Show me something in the last 3 months and I will be more interested. I say give the guy a chance. Also, I followed a lot of those threads and posts and never did I see Joey rip anyone off. There might have been some backing out of deals and squirming and weird stuff, but I never read where anyone got stolen from or ripped off.

[ScottFandango]

Originally Posted by JoeyF1981

I havent sold anything on ebay for awhile or anything for that matter. And also whenever I am allowed to sell on here I can decide to sell them for whatever I want if someones willing to buy them. Why would the price I sell them for be any of your concern anyways??? I have 3 cards in my collection because I sold almost all my cards awhile ago so I can start focusing on cards I know im really going to keep and not make the same mistakes as before. And you said cards I "intend" to buy which I can tell you I dont buy every card I ask for info on. I may have done that in the past. And so you know I have 2 t202's and a derek jeter rc and some autographs in my collection that arent going anywhere

Well good luck then, and try not having your next thread start with "can I get .."

[JoeyF1981]

Originally Posted by Leon

That is a year and a half ago. I/we was aware of those issues. Show me something in the last 3 months and I will be more interested. I say give the guy a chance. Also, I followed a lot of those threads and posts and never did I see Joey rip anyone off. There might have been some backing out of deals and squirming and weird stuff, but I never read where anyone got stolen from or ripped off.

Thanks leon! I dont have a psa account and I never post anything for sale on here. By the way can you recommend anyone to talk to about t202's? Im attempting to complete the set and wanted to get some info on them

[Leon]

Originally Posted by JoeyF1981

Thanks leon! I dont have a psa account and I never post anything for sale on here. By the way can you recommend anyone to talk to about t202's? Im attempting to complete the set and wanted to get some info on them

T202s?- Why don't you start a thread on this board asking for information on them? That would be my first suggestion. Then we can go from there...