Traded Sets

[robsbessette]

Do you guys consider Traded sets to be part of a "complete set". For example 1974, or the later sets in the 80s. Basically anything that has a number with a "T" on the back?

I don't, but curious as to if I'm in the minority.

[ALR-bishop]

I collect sets and have a continuing Topps run, including all the traded sets...a necessary evil for me.

[HRBAKER]

I don't.
If I see a 1983 Topps set for sale, I don;t expect it to have the Traded Set as a part of it.

[robsbessette]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

I collect sets and have a continuing Topps run, including all the traded sets...a necessary evil for me.

I'm working on a Topps run as well and an trying to decide if I should include the T sets. I'm wavering back and forth at this point.

[ALR-bishop]

Spare yourself and don't. It's a compulsive disorder. It even spread to my Tiffany sets :-)

[robsbessette]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Spare yourself and don't. It's a compulsive disorder. It even spread to my Tiffany sets :-)

Haha oh man I never even considered going there. Sounds like you do variations too I bet.

[ALR-bishop]

A slippery slope

[Harliduck]

Haha...very slippery. Tiffany and variations? haha...wow.

I don't consider them. I do have the awful 74 Traded set, don't know why...and I don't have the 76. I do have the 84 & 85 Traded sets only because when I bought the base sets on Ebay a while back to fill in the 80's they were shipped free with them. I was surprised, and couldn't help but remember how popular the 84 Gooden was back in the day. Anyhow, as I said, I don't consider them.

[nolemmings]

At least the '74 and '76 sets were included in the regular packs--although more akin to inserts--and were not separately issued, complete box sets only. That would be a huge distinction for me.

[ALR-bishop]

There were a couple of Topps traded sets issued in packs ( I think 1995 was one) , but unlike the 74 and 76, they were in packs separate from the regular set packs. The Traded sets at times became Update Sets or Traded and Rookie sets. To pick up their appeal Topps took to adding "rookies" to those sets

[bcbgcbrcb]

To me, if you are working on complete Topps runs, I would include traded sets. If you are focusing on individual sets, I don't think that you need to have the traded version for any given year to make the base set complete.

[brob28]

I don't consider them a part of the set, but with each set I've built I have the traded set as well. I went as far as to get the story booklets for my 1970 set. Hey, it's a Topps product with a baseball player on it.

[Rich Klein]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

There were a couple of Topps traded sets issued in packs ( I think 1995 was one) , but unlike the 74 and 76, they were in packs separate from the regular set packs. The Traded sets at times became Update Sets or Traded and Rookie sets. To pick up their appeal Topps took to adding "rookies" to those sets

There was a test run in 1985 of Traded Packs, I believe 1981 may have had other ways of distribution to go with the set form, 1990-1 era also had traded packs. I'm doing this from memory early in the morning so please correct me. In recent years, all the traded and update sets (U) have been issued in packs.

Rich

[Zach Wheat]

Originally Posted by brob28

I don't consider them a part of the set, but with each set I've built I have the traded set as well. I went as far as to get the story booklets for my 1970 set. Hey, it's a Topps product with a baseball player on it.

I thought I was the only one that collected those '70 Topps booklets! I do not consider the Traded sets to be part of the normal set - but have made a concerted effort to pick them up as well. I am mainly a set collector and as such try to collect Traded sets as well.

ZWheat

[ALR-bishop]

Guys---the booklets were included in both 70 and 71...and you need both to be complete . I found I needed not only those but every insert set...at least through 1994....and then all the issued and unissued test sets

By the way, if you were unaware of the fact there were 70 and 71 booklets...the differences are subtle...you may have a mixed set

[brob28]

OMG! You mean I have to buy more? I know I should not ask this question for where it may lead me but...

How can you tell the difference between the 70 & 71 versions?

[ALR-bishop]

My mistake Bill. The booklets were strictly a 1970 product I was thinking of the 70 and 71 Scratch Off inserts. For those, the 70s have white, unfolded centers and the 7s red

[pepis]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

There were a couple of Topps traded sets issued in packs ( I think 1995 was one) , but unlike the 74 and 76, they were in packs separate from the regular set packs. The Traded sets at times became Update Sets or Traded and Rookie sets. To pick up their appeal Topps took to adding "rookies" to those sets

the 1st time topps produced wax pack boxes for traded cards only was in 1990
featuring young sensation Scott Erickson who quickly faded.

[Zach Wheat]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

My mistake Bill. The booklets were strictly a 1970 product I was thinking of the 70 and 71 Scratch Off inserts. For those, the 70s have white, unfolded centers and the 7s red

Al,

You knowledge of the various nuances of each set & attention to detail never ceases to amaze me.

[brob28]

Originally Posted by Zach Wheat

Al,

You knowledge of the various nuances of each set & attention to detail never ceases to amaze me.

+1 & I'll add thank you for sharing the knowledge, I've learned quite a bit from your posts.

Cheers,

[savedfrommyspokes]

The 95 Topps traded was issued in wax box form as I bought a few boxes in '95.

[CobbSpikedMe]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

My mistake Bill. The booklets were strictly a 1970 product I was thinking of the 70 and 71 Scratch Off inserts. For those, the 70s have white, unfolded centers and the 7s red

Al,

What do you mean by "unfolded" for the 1970 Scratch-offs? I know the 70's have the white back and the 71's are all red, but all my 70's are folded in half.

Just seeing if I'm missing something here.

Thanks a lot,

AndyH

[ALR-bishop]

Just meant opened Andy

[Tomman1961]

I love these conversations. I liked the Traded cards that came in the 1974 packs. I was 13 years old. Laughed at the airbrushing of the hats. Not thrilled about the 132 card "Traded" or "Update" that came out in the 1980's. But I bought them anyway. Are the 1973 and 1974 team checklist cards part of the "complete" set?They came in wax packs. I have the 1974 to go with my complete 1974 set. I do not have the 1973 as they were not(as far as I know)not issued in packs in New Jersey. Now do I have to get them to finish my 1973 set? I have completed 1939-1941 Playball sets, and decided to focus on the older stuff.I have not bought a Topps, Fleer, or Donruss since 1999. Here lies questions about a "complete" set. I would never attempt 1933 Goudey as I would have to have Lajoie. I can not attempt T206 as I can not get the biggies. So I am working on Diamond Stars because I find the fronts gorgeous. My problem-the high numbers are the exact same front pictures as their low number. The high number commons are $100 a shot. And Bill Dickey? Then you get into the back variations of Blue or Green. And a few fronts with name and team changes. This keeps me up at nights.
Yes, I did chase-and have, all the 1974 and 1973 variations. They look pretty interesting side-by-side in my albums. I like front variations. So to answer- I have no idea if YOU have to have the Traded set. But it sounds to me like you want it. Many on the Pre-WW2 board told me this-a complete set is what you want it to be.So MY complete Diamond Star set will be cards 1-96 with the front variations.
Topps complete Sets 1953,1955,1961, 1972-1999
Playballs 1939,1940,1941
3 years in the making-20 short of Diamond Stars.

[CobbSpikedMe]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Just meant opened Andy

Hi Al,

Not trying to be a pain but I still need to clarify this further. And I know that you know your stuff when it comes to these cards.

That said, are you just saying that the 70's are white when they're opened and the 71's are red when opened? Again, sorry for being a pain here but want to sure I know what you mean.

Thanks a lot!

AndyH

[ALR-bishop]

Yes, Andy. I display my scratch off sets with my regular sets from those years in 9 pocket sheets folded. When opened up to the game boards the backgrounds are white or red

[ALR-bishop]

Tom---I treat these sets like my other insert sets. I store them in sheets behind my regular set for those years. I do not view them as part of the set ( nor do I view Traded or Update sets as PART of the regular set). But since my collecting parameters were all things listed for Topps in SCD prior to 1995, I had to have them

I think you could also get the 74s on uncut sheets as a send away redemption, which is why you can find some hand cut.

I also do variations for all my sets but rather than side by side, which if I picked up later variations would require shifting all my cards ( like my friend Steve ), I overlay them in a separate sheet

[CobbSpikedMe]

Hi Al,

Thanks a lot. That's what I thought you meant but needed to make sure.

Sorry for hijacking this thread also. So to actually be a part of the original discussion...

I share the feelings of those who do not consider the Traded series cards to be part of the standard set and do not include them in my checklists for each year. I would consider my set complete without them and then set up a separate wantlist for the Traded cards if I wanted to go after those as well.

Thanks,

AndyH