Eddie Plank Letter

[lechaim18]

I was about to submit my letter to psa until i found out it was 250$. Please let me know if you think its worth while to get this letter authenticated. It was purchased at an auction.

Thanks for your help

[ATP]

Disclaimer that I have never really studied Planks signature, but what really jumps out at me from a handwriting perspective is how much darker and the pressure applied to both the signature and date, and conveniently the L in Plank fits just under the closing and looks slowly drawn on the top part of the loop.

[Big Dave]

Not authentic.

[gnaz01]

No good. Probably at one time came from the Roaches.

[RichardSimon]

To the original poster - what auction did you purchase it from? How much did you pay? Your answers to those questions might tell all of us the answer to your original question.

[lechaim18]

Ya I was pretty sure it was a fake. I bought this at an online auction on proxibid. At the time I researched the authenticator and he seemed legit. I was about to submit to psa and I said hey let me type justin priddy in google one more time and obviously this forum and a couple of others have done a great job of ruining this guys reputation Hopefully all the negative publicity on these scammers will put them out of business and put them in jail. I didnt lose much and I plan on bitching to proxibid and the auction house.

Thanks for the help guys. I have more autos I purchased from proxibid id love to get a second opinion on. Funny that I feel safer with the unauthenticated pieces then i did with the authencated

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Glad you didn't waste any of your time and money submitting the item. Welcome to the board, we have a lot of members here with a great amount of knowledge, enjoy!

[JimStinson]

For the record you can expect to pay between $25,000 and $45,000 for an authentic Plank ALS. Maybe more depending on content
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[thetruthisoutthere]

Definitely looks like crap that would come from Coach's Corner.

Who is the issuer of COA?

Chris Morales, Drew Max, Frangipani or Ted Taylor (TTA/Stat Authentic)?

[gnaz01]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

Definitely looks like crap that would come from Coach's Corner.

Who is the issuer of COA?

Chris Morales, Drew Max, Frangipani or Ted Taylor (TTA/Stat Authentic)?

He stated it was Justin Priddy

[travrosty]

after seeing many other people first comment on this piece, i too would like to say it is a piece of carp.

[GrayGhost]

Originally Posted by travrosty

after seeing many other people first comment on this piece, i too would like to say it is a piece of carp.

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[RichardSimon]

I hate to see anyone in this hobby get taken advantage of but why would you buy this letter?
A Plank letter should go for $25,000++ and you bought it for not much money. Didn't that set off an alarm for you?
Use that Yiddish brain next time .

[lechaim18]

In reality I rarely bid on sports autographs and thought it was possible that eddie plank got overlooked compared to other more recognizable names in the auction. I do remeber doing brief research on ace certification and seemed legit and was a 175 $ shot in the dark to get 15-25k so i went with it. Now i know better methods ofgetting auction material verified before purchase. SOhopefullyi learned my lesson.

Thanks again all

[Mr. Zipper]

Justin Priddy strikes once again. I can't believe this guy has the stones to set up shop at card shows and show his face in public.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

I hate to see anyone in this hobby get taken advantage of but why would you buy this letter?
A Plank letter should go for $25,000++ and you bought it for not much money. Didn't that set off an alarm for you?
Use that Yiddish brain next time .

In this particular case, the buyer was not taken advantage of, but in fact, the opposite occurred.

The buyer was hoping to take advantage of the possibility that no one was watching that listing and was looking to buy it cheap and flip it.

No sympathy for the buyer here.

[jgmp123]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

In this particular case, the buyer was not taken advantage of, but in fact, the opposite occurred.

The buyer was hoping to take advantage of the possibility that no one was watching that listing and was looking to buy it cheap and flip it.

No sympathy for the buyer here.

The buyer placed a bid on an item that Justin Priddy said was authentic. Sorry Chris, but the buyer was taken advantage of.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by jgmp123

The buyer placed a bid on an item that Justin Priddy said was authentic. Sorry Chris, but the buyer was taken advantage of.

$175.00 for a Eddie Plank signed letter and the buyer was taken advantage of?

Strongly disagree.

[JimStinson]

I bought a lottery ticket for $1.00 , the sign in front of the store said the jackpot was 10 Million dollars the next day the numbers didn;t match my ticket ...I feel I was taken advantage of

[ibuysportsephemera]

I agree with Chris. In fact the buyer admits that he was hoping "it slipped through the cracks".

This is why there is so much fraud in the autograph industry. The roaches and others will continue to pump this stuff out as long as there are people buying it. There are far too many collectors or dealers trying to make a quick buck or find a steal.

The person or collector that suffers from these fakes are the ones that have no little or no experience and are truly purchasing an autograph for their collection. This is not an excuse for not doing your homework, but I would guess that the majority of collectors don't have (or want to have) the kind of knowledge that our members have.

Just my 2¢.

Jeff

[jgmp123]

All I am saying is this, It doesn't matter the $$ amount. If you purchase something that you believe to be authentic and it turns out to be fake, you are being taken advantage of. I understand that the buyer should have been aware and did his own research and yadda yadda yadda...I get that...I totally understand that, but take $$ out of the equation and the buyer was taken advantage of.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by jgmp123

All I am saying is this, It doesn't matter the $$ amount. If you purchase something that you believe to be authentic and it turns out to be fake, you are being taken advantage of. I understand that the buyer should have been aware and did his own research and yadda yadda yadda...I get that...I totally understand that, but take $$ out of the equation and the buyer was taken advantage of.

Ah, the dollar amount is part of the equation and always will be.

Look at thousands of buyers who purchased Mantle, Williams and DiMaggio forgeries.

Why did they purchase those forgeries for between $10.00 and $50.00? Because they thought they could flip them on Ebay for between 10-20 times their purchase price. And 99% of that crap was removed before it sold.

Absolutely no sympathy for those buyers and the OP of this thread.

Jeff wrote "In fact the buyer admits that he was hoping "it slipped through the cracks".

Excellent post, Jeff.

[JimStinson]

At least the last name is spelled correctly.

[cubsfan-budman]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

Ah, the dollar amount is part of the equation and always will be.

Look at thousands of buyers who purchased Mantle, Williams and DiMaggio forgeries.

Why did they purchase those forgeries for between $10.00 and $50.00? Because they thought they could flip them on Ebay for between 10-20 times their purchase price. And 99% of that crap was removed before it sold.

Absolutely no sympathy for those buyers and the OP of this thread.

Jeff wrote "In fact the buyer admits that he was hoping "it slipped through the cracks".

Excellent post, Jeff.

If you read the dude's last post, I didn't get the impression that he was looking for sympathy. He said it was a shot in the dark and basically that it was a lesson learned.

Not sure where your vitriol toward the OP is coming from.

I think its annoying that people create forgeries. It is unfortunate that we all can't be autograph experts, indeed.

But the fact is some jackass sat there and wrote out a fake Plank letter, got it authenticated and someone else bought it. The person that bought it got hosed. There's really no other way to consider this, as far as I can tell.

Christian Augustus

[chaddurbin]

the buyer knew what he was getting (a $175 shot in the dark at 20-25k item) so he didn't get hosed or ripped off...the sucky part is the plank turned out to be exactly what he'd thought.

same thing with scavengers going to flea markets and gambling $50 on a painting thinking it could be some expensive artwork. once in a blue moon it works out most of the time it's money flushed away.

[thecatspajamas]

Originally Posted by lechaim18

Ya I was pretty sure it was a fake. I bought this at an online auction on proxibid. At the time I researched the authenticator and he seemed legit. I was about to submit to psa and I said hey let me type justin priddy in google one more time and obviously this forum and a couple of others have done a great job of ruining this guys reputation Hopefully all the negative publicity on these scammers will put them out of business and put them in jail. I didnt lose much and I plan on bitching to proxibid and the auction house.

Thanks for the help guys. I have more autos I purchased from proxibid id love to get a second opinion on. Funny that I feel safer with the unauthenticated pieces then i did with the authencated

Rather than berate you for a mistake already made, I'd like to encourage you to report back on the results of your complaints to proxibid and the auction house (by the way, which auction house, as there are many that use proxibid as a platform). The more specifics you can give, the better the odds of this thread popping up in the next unsuspecting bidder's casual google search, which may help keep others from repeating your mistake. It's also fun for us bystanders to hear how the auction house (typically) tries to squirm out of any responsibility or stretch a loophole big enough to escape through

[cubsfan-budman]

Originally Posted by chaddurbin

the buyer knew what he was getting (a $175 shot in the dark at 20-25k item) so he didn't get hosed or ripped off...the sucky part is the plank turned out to be exactly what he'd thought.

same thing with scavengers going to flea markets and gambling $50 on a painting thinking it could be some expensive artwork. once in a blue moon it works out most of the time it's money flushed away.

Listen, the buyer was lied to and presumably he can't recoup his money, so he absolutely did get hosed AND ripped off.

Blaming the victim sucks.

[jgmp123]

Originally Posted by cubsfan-budman

Listen, the buyer was lied to and presumably he can't recoup his money, so he absolutely did get hosed AND ripped off.

Blaming the victim sucks.

+1

[mcgwirecom]

Admit it, everyone still looks for a good deal or one that slipped through. Otherwise why do folks still look at Coaches Corner each month? Every once in a while a real items gets slipped in there! I collect McGwire stuff (obviously) and I have grabbed a few nice pieces from Coaches Corner. Admittedly for every real one I've seen on there I have seen 99 fakes so you wade through the crap. But if you are familiar with a signature you can find a real one in a strange place occasionally.

[ibuysportsephemera]

Originally Posted by cubsfan-budman

Listen, the buyer was lied to and presumably he can't recoup his money, so he absolutely did get hosed AND ripped off.

Blaming the victim sucks.

No one is blaming the victim, but when you admit that you weren't sure if it was real going in, you did not get hosed and ripped off! You took a shot and made a mistake.

I don't know how anyone could think that a 25k autograph could be had for $175 on line (no offense to the OP). If the auction house was legitimate they would never let an authentic autograph go for that price or even 10x that price. There is a big difference between trying to get a great deal and a deal that is improbable.

Jeff

[vintagechris]

Originally Posted by mcgwirecom

Admit it, everyone still looks for a good deal or one that slipped through. Otherwise why do folks still look at Coaches Corner each month? Every once in a while a real items gets slipped in there! I collect McGwire stuff (obviously) and I have grabbed a few nice pieces from Coaches Corner. Admittedly for every real one I've seen on there I have seen 99 fakes so you wade through the crap. But if you are familiar with a signature you can find a real one in a strange place occasionally.

To each his own, but I wouldn't give them any of my money, no matter what kind of deal I got or how much I may want something.

[chaddurbin]

funny the word "victim" is being thrown around here, yet the OP never claimed to be one or getting ripped off. from my pov he knew the situation going in, took a shot and it didn't work out.

my grandma buying that signature, she would be a victim. the drunk tourist buying a coaches corner mantle at the bellagio, that's a victim. there's a difference. an autograph dealer who doesn't specialize in cards goes to a a widow's house and buy a t206 wagner for 5k. if the card is fake he's a "victim"? who's the victim if the card is real?

[cubsfan-budman]

Originally Posted by ibuysportsephemera

No one is blaming the victim, but when you admit that you weren't sure if it was real going in, you did not get hosed and ripped off! You took a shot and made a mistake.

I don't know how anyone could think that a 25k autograph could be had for $175 on line (no offense to the OP). If the auction house was legitimate they would never let an authentic autograph go for that price or even 10x that price. There is a big difference between trying to get a great deal and a deal that is improbable.

Jeff

He didnt say that he didnt know it was real going in. He said that he did research on the authenticator and it "seemed legitimate".

We all know now in hindsight that Justin Priddy is NOT legitimate, but that wasn't uncovered by OP.

I see folks all the time put ludicrously low bids on things at auction...they must do it for a reason. Sometimes things get passed over and they score something for less than its worth. I think theres a thread on the first page of the homepage here about "scores" like this. People seem to celebrate these fortunate occasions.

This also wasn't some dude taking advantage of someone's grandmother either. It was an authenticated item bought at auction.

The OP didn't ask for sympathy, but if he did, he would deserve it. He got screwed out of $175 by a con artist authenticator and a suspect auction house.

Christian Augustus

[ibuysportsephemera]

Originally Posted by cubsfan-budman

He didnt say that he didnt know it was real going in.

Wrong...here is his quote: Ya I was pretty sure it was a fake.

Jeff

[Deertick]

Originally Posted by ibuysportsephemera

Wrong...here is his quote: Ya I was pretty sure it was a fake.

Jeff

I read that as saving face. Sorta like, "I knew she was a guy all along. I just had to make sure."

[cubsfan-budman]

Originally Posted by Deertick

I read that as saving face. Sorta like, "I knew she was a guy all along. I just had to make sure."

I assumed he was saying that after all he'd heard on these boards about Priddy, he began to assume it was fake.