HOF in cooperstown t206 wagner

[g_vezina_c55]

I plan to travel during my summer vacation to the cooperstown HOF.

I have heard i can see a T206 Wagner in the hof.

i would like to know if this information is exact ?

The HOF copy of the t206 wagner is avalaible to see everyday in the hof ?

It is probably the easy way for me to see a T206 Wagner in real....

thx

[MVSNYC]

yes to all of your questions. i was there last month. i highly recommend staying at The Inn at Cooperstown (great historic bed & breakfast). Also do dinner one night at Hawkeye Grill at the Otesaga Hotel.

[g_vezina_c55]

wow the card look like in terrefic condition...on the pic...

it is a 3 , 4 ?

your advice is welcome about a best place to sleep.....

[MVSNYC]

it is obviously raw, but i think some people think it would grade a 4 or 5.

[margoaepi]

I was there last April, and they had 2 Wagners. There are two areas where they had cards displayed. One only had about 6-8 cards, including a Wagner, a '33 Goudey Lajoie, a T206 Matty, and if memory serves, a Ruth and a Shoeless Joe. In another room, which was at the end of a cricket exhibit, there was a more thorough collection of cards, which included another Wagner, and cards up through the '80s.

[irishdenny]

Originally Posted by MVSNYC

it is obviously raw, but i think some people think it would grade a 4 or 5.

Curious... My memory is clouded... Did Mr Burdick donate this card to the Hall? Or at least one of the Wags?

[Peter_Spaeth]

I thought it was Halper but I could be wrong.

[g_vezina_c55]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I thought it was Halper but I could be wrong.

Yep it is

[E93]

Looks ex - ex+ to me. Halper sold it to the HOF (or maybe MLB who donated it). He gave them first dibs on his collection before publicly auctioning the rest.
JimB

[philliesphan]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I thought it was Halper but I could be wrong.

Yes -- but Halper did not donate it! I think Halper sold it to MLB, and MLB donated it to the Hall.

[jthorst75]

Its been awhile since I have been, but I remember the Wagner being in lesser condition. I haven't seen this copy. The one I remember had rougher corners and a pinhole on top as memory serves me. Just seeing it reminds me of when I went to the Louvre in Paris and saw the Mona Lisa. I have been to the HOF 3 times and will always go back.

[FrankWakefield]

My recollecton is that Mr. Burdick donated his collection to the Metropolitan Museum of Art.

[atx840]

REA

“The Halper Cooperstown Gift Wagner” (in the 1980s when famous collector Barry Halper learned that the Hall of Fame did not have a Wagner, he gave them his duplicate as a gift!

[benjulmag]

This is the copy that Lipset auctioned in the early 80's. Mastro bought it for $25,011. When Mastro acquired the Piedmont "8", he sold this one to Halper. When Halper sold his collection, MLB bought a portion of the collection (as I recall $8 million worth) and donated it to the HOF. This example was included in that sale. IMO, it is one of the top two examples known (the other one NOT being the "8").

[g_vezina_c55]

Originally Posted by philliesphan

Yes -- but Halper did not donate it! I think Halper sold it to MLB, and MLB donated it to the Hall.

Anyone have hôtel suggestion at reasonable price, near the hof??

Arround 100 150 à night...

[Moonlight Graham]

Originally Posted by g_vezina_c55

Anyone have hôtel suggestion at reasonable price, near the hof??

Arround 100 150 à night...

I have gone to cooperstown once a year for every year that i have been married (this year will be #8) and we have always stayed at the cooperstown best western-it really is a beautiful hotel with free breakfast every morning and it's in your price range-it sits just 3 miles outside of cooperstown but gives you a chance to see some of the area which is also really beautiful! the rooms are nice and clean-the hotel was just renovated but in my opinion even before that it was awesome!!!

[bigtrain]

It really depends on how long you are staying in Cooperstown. You do need reservations well in advance for the summer. I have a summer home near there so I haven't used a hotel in a while except in winter but there is a website
www.cooperstownstay.com that covers hotels, lodges, bed and breakfasts and even rental of private homes. Problem is that with tourism and Dreams Park tournaments, they fill up fast and its hard to find a room for less than a week.
Lots to do there though, in addition to the HOF, there is always a game at Doubleday Field and great fishing and boating on Otsego Lake.

[z28jd]

I stayed at the Holiday Inn when I went there six months ago. I'd recommend it, just outside of town, close to plenty of places to eat, great scenery.

[g_vezina_c55]

Any other attraction or thing to de at Cooperstown or near this place?

My wife want to go with me but didnt want only to go to the hof...

[e107collector]

Originally Posted by MVSNYC

it is obviously raw, but i think some people think it would grade a 4 or 5.

I beleive this is the card that during the Mastro Live 2008 event, when they auctioned off their Jumbo Wagner, they stated that the oversized example at the Cooperstown HOF, would grade a 6 or 6.5 - it's boderline NM.

Tony

[bigtrain]

If you haven't been there before, you might try Howe Caverns in Cobleskill or the Fly Creek Cider Mill in Fly Creek.

[g_vezina_c55]

Originally Posted by bigtrain

If you haven't been there before, you might try Howe Caverns in Cobleskill or the Fly Creek Cider Mill in Fly Creek.

So not forger i go with my 5 month son hehe

[g_vezina_c55]

How many time it take to visite the hof? It take 1 day? It is big?

[steve B]

It was most of a day in 1975 or 76.
And changing over from very old fashioned informal displays to modern quality museum displays. At the time the no-hit game balls from 1900 to current were in an obviously homemade case resting on pegboard hooks with 3x5 cards to identify the game.

I've really got to go again soon.


I'm not sure if they're still in the area, but there was a farming museum that had the cardiff giant, a hoax/scam from 1869. -Just checked, and they're still there, with a really neat carousel too.

Steve B

[MVSNYC]

as i suggested in my first post, there is a great bed & breakfast (hotel) right near main st. in C-town, called "The Inn at Cooperstown". i highly recommend it.

[g_vezina_c55]

I will sleep at cobleskill best western, it is at 30 40 minute of the hof..

How many time it take to do the visit of the hof.? It is big?

[Hot Springs Bathers]

Take your wife and family! The Farm Museum is fun for kids and the State Art Museum with many of Grandma Moses' works is well done.

[z28jd]

Definitely take the family and hit up the Fly Creek Cider Mill as someone said before. That place is great for the family. There's plenty of shopping on the main st in Cooperstown..as long as you like baseball stuff

[TheKid41]

This is the Wagner I saw when I visited Cooperstown in February. The famous McNall/Gretzky card.

It was accompanied by a PSA 8 M101-5 Ruth Rookie, PSA 8 Goudey Lajoie, PSA 9 T206 Cy Young and others.

It was my second visit. Had a great time.

[g_vezina_c55]

Wow the gretzky wagner, i hope it will be here in june when i will go to Cooperstown.

[btcarfagno]

There are two breweries in the area that give tours and samples. Love me some samples. Cooperstown Brewery (I think) and Brewery Ommegang. The cider mill has a tour as well. There is also a winery close by.

The Farmees Museum right in town is a pretty nice family excursion. Definately go out on the lake...they have tour boats. Only takes about an hour or a bit more but it is beautiful. Grab a lunch and picnic on the grass in the park at the foot of the lake two blocks from the museum.

I sound like a tour guide!! But I do love that place so.

Tom C

[g_vezina_c55]

Originally Posted by TheKid41

This is the Wagner I saw when I visited Cooperstown in February. The famous McNall/Gretzky card.

It was accompanied by a PSA 8 M101-5 Ruth Rookie, PSA 8 Goudey Lajoie, PSA 9 T206 Cy Young and others.

It was my second visit. Had a great time.

Anybody know where i can buy a box like this ? It is beautifull for display a card !

[dougscats]

Great info here.
I'm posting so that I'll have this thread in my records when I want it.
My wife goes to a nearby karate camp for weekends once or twice annually, and she's always bugging me to drive her up. Maybe next time I will.

Thanks.

Doug

[jimross]

Kind of off topic.....

Regards to that Gretzky Wagner, if it wasn't trimmed it looks better than a 8 to me. Close to a 9 if not a 10 but just my opinion.