grading question - hole punches?

[cozmokramer]

I've seen and owned a bunch of Old Judges that have a hole punched in them.

Sometimes a hole, sometimes a strange triangle shaped hole punch, about the size of a half of a pencil eraser.

My question is that sometimes I've seen these graded as a PSA SGC 10/1 and sometimes as an AUTH.

Any thoughts on if these should actually receive number grades or not? After all they are altered in their current state.

[cfc1909]

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[cozmokramer]

would most agree with the grade or feel it should be AUTH

its altered isn't it.

[jp1216]

I would agree that a 'A' would be better. Any alteration, should be given a 'A'. But what about paper loss on the back when a card was 'altered' into a scrapbook? I guess a 'A' and a '10' are similar. Buy the card not the slab either way. I'd take a beautiful 'A' with a slight trim or hole vs. a beat up 10. Just my opinion.

[cozmokramer]

Originally Posted by jp1216

I would agree that a 'A' would be better. Any alteration, should be given a 'A'. But what about paper loss on the back when a card was 'altered' into a scrapbook? I guess a 'A' and a '10' are similar. Buy the card not the slab either way. I'd take a beautiful 'A' with a slight trim or hole vs. a beat up 10. Just my opinion.

I guess that makes sense.. a card with writing on it still gets a grade, and one could consider that altered