So, I found a new T206 rare back.

[Prof]

I figured this would be of interest to many of you on the forum.

Last week, I found, and moments ago, lost, an auction for these cards. I did not have the cajones to spend more than I bid, even though the trio went below my estimated values (with the help of a few posters here) when graded. The damn 30% auction fees crushed my soul.

Anyway, the Steinfeldt with bat with a Lenox back has no copies at PSA/SGC/Beckett, and sites like T206resource list it as 'possibly exists, but unconfirmed.'

Well, I'd say it's confirmed to exist now. It was in the hands of a 'high end' British collector. And based on other auctions from the same collection this year, they had roughly 20% of the set and some other nice stuff.

Woe is me. But, at least I found something worthwhile.

[Pat R]

Thanks for sharing this, it's always nice to see a previously unconfirmed combo.

[oldeboo]

Thanks for sharing. I suspect we will see many of the finds from that collection circulating in the US auction circuit once they are graded. It's disappointing to not win an auction, but that's how it goes.

[Eric72]

Every now and then I go well past my "card budget" in an auction.

For a while afterwards, there's no disposable income on hand. As a result, I'll miss out on a few things.

However, I've never regretted the decision to "go all in" on a card. It's the "one that got away" which will gnaw at me...

[Jobu]

The Steinfeldt looks like it might be a Brown Lenox too.

[Prof]

Originally Posted by Jobu

The Steinfeldt looks like it might be a Brown Lenox too.

That would actually be the Bridwell back, because the trio were in one connected sheet.

But yeah, I can't tell if it's brown, or just a faded black. It's definitely lighter than the other.

I did have one net54 user look at the photos prior to my bidding, and they didn't think it was brown.

I'm curious if anyone else thinks it's brown. (I'd be even more mad for not upping my bid.)

[Prof]

Originally Posted by oldeboo

Thanks for sharing. I suspect we will see many of the finds from that collection circulating in the US auction circuit once they are graded. It's disappointing to not win an auction, but that's how it goes.

That's what I think as well. There was 75% of a 1924 Cuban Aguilitas set in an auction a few months ago, from what I assume is the same collection. I've been waiting to see those pop up somewhere in the States... because I was outbid on those too.

But, who knows? Maybe it's all staying somewhere in England?

[Rhotchkiss]

Cale, I don’t know if that is brown or black. It is very difficult to tell when card is not in hand- some browns can be darker/lighter than others. As discussed, if brown, the card is worth much more than if black. I am leaning against it being brown bc there are just so few browns out there that odds are just against it from a probability stand point

Now that the auction is over, what auction were these in?

[Prof]

Originally Posted by Eric72

Every now and then I go well past my "card budget" in an auction.

For a while afterwards, there's no disposable income on hand. As a result, I'll miss out on a few things.

However, I've never regretted the decision to "go all in" on a card. It's the "one that got away" which will gnaw at me...

I hear that. I'm just getting back into cards after collecting as a kid in the 90s... and obviously, I just got interested again months before the pandemic price boom.

So, I've still got sticker shocker from going from 90s prices to pandemic prices.

I've got a few gnawing flubs. But you're right, sometimes you've got to throw the frugality out the window for something.

[Prof]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Cale, I don’t know if that is brown or black. It is very difficult to tell when card is not in hand- some browns can be darker/lighter than others. As discussed, if brown, the card is worth much more than if black. I am leaning against it being brown bc there are just so few browns out there that odds are just against it from a probability stand point

Now that the auction is over, what auction were these in?

Yeah, I would hedge my bets and assume black as well. The odds of a 1/1 card + a brown Lenox + a Uzit seems too crazy. I will shoot you an email with more details.

But, if anyone reading thinks it's brown, feel free to tell me that I whiffed.

[Pat R]

The Steinfeldt as Bryan said is without a doubt Brown.

[Prof]

Originally Posted by Pat R

The Steinfeldt as Bryan said is without a doubt Brown.

Well, then I should've bid a bit more than I did! But, I still bet I'd have balked and lost at a higher number.

[Rhotchkiss]

The first is the Steinfeldt. All the others are examples of brown Lenox I own. As you can see, the brown can vary pretty dramatically. The Steinfeldt is not as brown as some, but from scans, certainly resembles some of my others, all of which are brown

[Prof]

^ That Bridwell definitely looks like it fits in with examples from your collection. According to PSA/SGC there are only black Lenox ones.

In that case, both Lennox cards are unique examples. Neat.

[Webster]

I believe it is the Steinfeld that is the Brown back - not Bridwell. Top right of the three obverse (front) images; top LEFT of the three reverse (back) images.

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by Webster

I believe it is the Steinfeld that is the Brown back - not Bridwell. Top right of the three obverse (front) images; top LEFT of the three reverse (back) images.

Correct, the back scans are reversed the Steinfeldt is the one on the left in the back scans.

[Rhotchkiss]

Fair enough, but the pic I posted is of the correct back, just mislabeled/backwards by me.

[Prof]

Originally Posted by Webster

I believe it is the Steinfeld that is the Brown back - not Bridwell. Top right of the three obverse (front) images; top LEFT of the three reverse (back) images.

Oh, I may still not be seeing the difference.

To clarify, the cards in other lots were in plastic sheets like this. Each sheet was two rows of five cards.

Let's number them as:

1 Bridwell (Lenox)
2 Steinfeldt (Lenox)
3 Steinfeldt (Uzit)

The photo order should be:

Fronts:

1 2
. 3

Backs:

2 1
3

If you think brown is the top left, that's Steinfeldt. Top right is Bridwell.

Existential crisis: Is this how I find out I'm colorblind?