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Posted By: leon
I know I get a ton of catalogues in the mail and I do usually look at them. Are they still necessary though in this day of the internet? I look on line far more than I look at catalogues. Also, in auctions are call backs still necessary with the way the bidding is done nowadays? best regards |
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Posted By: JimCrandell
I look at every catalog I get which are all of the auction houses except recently Mastronet. I have never looked online at auctions. When I bid I call in. |
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Posted By: chris bland
If you are looking to start your own auction house, you might want to use both catalogs and the internet to start out with, to ensure maximum visibility... |
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Posted By: Rich Klein
AND if you ever lose internet connection, or it becomes hard to reference on-line after an auction is concluded, you can always refer back to them to make your own records. |
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Posted By: Matt
Understanding the expense that goes into paginating, publishing and shipping an auction I would venture many of us would have little issue with the auction house doing away with the catalog, if those savings were passed on to us/the consignor in the form of a significantly lower buyer's premium. |
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Posted By: JimCrandell
Yikes--no catalogs--for those of us that travel non-stop they are essential. I can spend a whole 3-hour plane trip looking at a catalog. How about getting rid of listing them on the internet and go back to phone-only auctions. |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
Here's how the catalog helps them in more ways than one. My brother was flipping through one of my Mastro catalogs last year and saw an auction for a couple of old gas powered cars (Tether cars) so he signed up for the auction bid on them and won. He never would have even known about the auction if he hadn't been flipping through my catalog. |
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Posted By: Matt
Dan & Jim - I don't think anyone is suggesting the catalogs are worthless; the question is are they still worth enough to justify the incredible cost it takes to produce them. I would suggest that in the age of the internet they are not. |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
I'm guessing my brother isn't the first person to sign up for Mastro auctions after having seen a catalog. That IMO makes it reasonable for the auction companies to continue producing catalogs. I guarantee you if they stop producing them and only rely on the online avenue they will not pass the savings on to the bidders. |
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Posted By: Matt
Dan: "I guarantee you if they stop producing them and only rely on the online avenue they will not pass the savings on to the bidders." |
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Posted By: DJ
I'm with Jim on this one. I don't ever go directly to online auctions without referring to the catalogs itself first. At least for me, catalogs are essential and I probably spend at least an hour flipping through per. I understand that it's a large suspense, but it makes the decision process a lot easier for me and allows me to write in each one what I want (I'm at times a bottom fedder) to pay and at the end, attech the prices realized list to it. I also collect them. I have about 400 of them. |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
Okay....I thought the premise was that they stop producing and pass on the savings to us. That'll happen about the time gasoline goes back to $1.50/gallon, and OJ finds the real killer(s) of his ex-wife and Ron Goldman. |
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Posted By: Matt
Dan - that was my premise. I don't see this as being an actual question worth discussing if it doesn't save me anything if they stop making the catalogs. However, if the savings would be passed on, then I think it is a great topic for debate. |
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Posted By: Corey R. Shanus
"Are they still necessary though in this day of the internet?" |
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Posted By: Joe D.
The catalogs offer a value added. They are more of an investment than an expense. |
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Posted By: Phil Garry
I prefer the catalogues over the internet descriptions on all large auctions (over 100 lots) because the catalogue is much easier on the eyes than looking at the computer for hours. |
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Posted By: Wesley
When I only search using auction websites, I inevitably miss items that I am interested in so I always flip through the auction catalogs. To ensure maximum visability, auctionhouses do need catalogs and a large circulation list. Otherwise, what differentiates an internet auction from ebay aside from higher buyer premiums and less participants? |
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Posted By: Matt
Wes - reputation and quality of items. |
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Posted By: Alan
I LOVE the auction catalogs. The bigger, the better !!! Since I can't afford the stuff in the catalog, at least I can have the catalog !!! |
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Posted By: Cat
I normally just look at the website and then call Wes to see what I missed. |
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Posted By: barry arnold
Leon, I absolute love the catalogs. |
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Posted By: Mark Steinberg
Not much left to add, but really agree with Jim (for those of us who travel...) Those 3 hour flights are much more enjoyable with a Catalogue to keep me company. |
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Posted By: JimB
I think print catalogs are a must. I find what I am interested in with the print catalogs. I don't want to spend hours in front of the computer searching through hundreds or thousands of lots. All the decent auction houses have print catalogs for a reason. |
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Posted By: Matt
"All the decent auction houses have print catalogs for a reason." |
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Posted By: JimCrandell
Matt, |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
The only "Internet Only" auction without a catalog that I can think of is Leland's. At least I don't think they have catalogs for those auctions. |
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Posted By: Matt
JimC - Mastro's current offering is "internet only" in the sense that they are not accepting bids any other way (they even wrote "internet only" on the catalog they sent out |
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Posted By: Scott Mt. Joy
Looks like I'm in the minority here. I am pretty much internet only and then I might look at the printed catalog if I even have one. The last five auctions I bid on I did all research by internet, heck I didnt even know a couple had catalogs. |
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Posted By: JK
Hunt Auctions - worst website in the business. Their catalog is essential. |
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Posted By: Tony Andrea
All I know is they are great reading when your on the throne. |
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Posted By: leon
Me too butt (sic) my doctor says that causes hemorrhoids. Great opinions so far.....thanks and keep them coming.... |
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Posted By: MVSNYC
there is something very romantic & dramatic about flipping thru a major Mastro's or REA auction catalog...pieces that command full pages, or a full spread, with a gate-fold, etc...are very compelling, and make the items seem special. that is NOT captured on the internet, especially since all of the second & third tier auction houses use the identical interface/navigation these days, the only thing that distinguishes them from one to the other is the logo at the top of the website... |
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Posted By: Anonymous
I killed a whole flight to Tokyo last spring going through Mastro and REA, but I had to haul them back at the end. |
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Posted By: boxingcardman
between a catalog and a BP of 20% or no catalog and a reduced BP, I'd eschew the catalog. Otherwise, why would I want to benefit the auction house financially? |
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Posted By: Mark
The latest SCP/Sothebys Auction was "Internet only" bidding as well (although there was still a nice Catalogue). I bet we see some of the lower and mid-tier auctions eventually abanding their catalogs. |
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Posted By: Ricky Y
I still enjoy the catalogues. Especially the ones from REA..they are like history books for me. It allows me to look at them more carefully at my own leisure while contemplating whether to bid or not....its hard to do that while you're looking at it on PC. |
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Posted By: Joann
I think everyone is right. |
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Posted By: robert a
They come in handy when one's researching a set. |
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Posted By: JimB
"Hunt Auctions - worst website in the business. Their catalog is essential." |
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Posted By: Bruce Babcock
I like a good catalog. I keep most of them. Anything that gets me AWAY from my computer is a plus. |
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Posted By: Rob Dewolf
Totally anecdotal: For years I receieved Leland's auctions and sometimes placed bids in their auctions. Presumably not enough, though, because I stopped receiving their catalogs. I've not placed a bid in any of their auctions since I stopped receiving their catalogs, simply because their auctions ceased to be "top of mind" to me. The catalogs accomplished that. I know Leland's has their auctions online, and I see the reminders on this board, but not being able to sit down and browse through their offerings at my leisure -- away from a computer -- obviously has impacted me as a customer. |
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Posted By: MikeU
Personally, I love the catalogues. Look through them and decide what to go after and then go directly to the website and bid. I absolutely hate weeding through a website without a catalogue, particularly Hunt Auctions. |
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