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Buying raw cards on ebay
Posted By: Bob
I was curious how many collectors here still do it? I know I do, with mixed results. I think my eyes have 25 years of experience in detecting trimming and alteration so maybe I don't get fooled as often as some but it still happens. My most recent raw E94 purchase ended up in a slabbed SGC authentic holder but the seller was good enough to knock some off the original purchase price. One of the E94s I bought in a Mastro auction a while back ended up in an authentic holder although the rest graded out 30s, 40s and 50s, so it is not just ebay. |
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Posted By: quan
tbob my best purchases have always been raw cards...and i think board members have done well also, leon with the n167 ewing and josh with the e95 cobb come to mind. and for those that are afraid of funny business with raw cards, i've bought more altered cards in holders than raw. |
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Posted By: Steve
With experience, it can be a boom*. Yes, JK done real good. |
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Posted By: MVSNYC
years back (right when eBay came to be), i was buying raw T206 cards (rare variations that were low-mid grade, so they were usually unaltered)...BUT, in recent years i think i have only bought one raw card, a sharp looking T205 card, it was ultimately deemed trimmed by PSA...every other card i have bought on eBay has been graded. |
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Posted By: Joann
I routinely buy raw cards on ebay with no problem. I am indifferent as to whether a card is graded or raw - I'm ususally just buying a card I want or need. I prefer raw b/c price is a bit lower but it seems that more and more graded is the predominant choice - there are simply more of them. |
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Posted By: Larry
Almost everything I bid on is graded. |
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Posted By: Tony Andrea
I buy raw cards whenever & where ever I can. As long as your Tony |
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Posted By: peter chao
The advantage of buying raw cards is that subsequently you can get the card graded by the company you prefer. |
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Posted By: leon
I agree completely about it being a little more exciting to buy raw cards. The only problem is that less and less nice cards are staying raw . Also, on more valuable cards I buy that are raw I always get a guarantee they will grade numerically (unless otherwise stated) so I guess I am my own worst enemy !! |
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Posted By: Shanon Ping
I have resolved myself to buying only pre-war cards on ebay graded unless it comes from a dealer I regulary deal with. I do buy raw post-war stuff. |
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Posted By: Tony Andrea
Leon - |
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Posted By: TR
tBob, I have bought a few ungraded vintage baseball cards over the years on eBay and I've had 3 or 4 come back from PSA as having been "Trimmed" and "Re-colored". It's funny, but every one of those altered cards were ones that I bought from sellers who were & had been selling only sports cards on eBay. But, I've never had a problem with PSA grading a card that I have bought from sellers who mostly had listed and previously sold items other then just sports cards. |
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Posted By: George
I've purchased several raw cards in the past and have had mixed results in terms of them being altered. It has been my experience that the raw cards which I thought I got for a good deal have been altered in one way or another and a seller saying cards are "sold as is" may be an indication that the card has been trimmed (although not always the case). |
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Posted By: JK
Ive bought several raw cards on ebay and still do so ocassionally. Ive found that (1) its more difficult to find nice raw material and (2) raw cards are starting to attract higher bids thus eliminating some of the advantages to buying raw in the first place. As mentioned above, I did get one of my best deals ever on ebay with the raw e95 cobby. |
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Posted By: Steve Murray
Who in the heck is trimming all of these cards? I bought a lot of 10 cards from a board member who I know for a fact does not trim cards and who likely has had the cards in his possession for decades. I submitted 5 to SGC and three came back "evidence of trimming". It just doesn't make any sense to me. Is it in the manufacture; is it SGC? Hard to figure. |
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Posted By: Jim Clarke
Steve, could you see where the grading company was talking about? If not, re-submit them. On the flip side in years past, auction companies have gotten great money for altered premium cards.... |
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Posted By: Brian
I have consistently bought raw cards for the last year. After getting stung on one purchase, I have begun to ask for measurements on the cards. Since then I have gotten some REALLY nice cards, mainly Cracker Jacks, for less than the going rate if they were graded. I think there is an element of "buyer beware", but it you are smart, you can do it pretty easily. |
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Posted By: Matt
I've been stung twice recently with buying raw cards on ebay that ended up being counterfeit. The sellers had hundreds of positive feedback and have been selling on ebay for years. It's a dangerous game. |
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Posted By: Jason L
I have bought raw with mixed results. |
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Posted By: Ricky Y
I buy raw too..there are still a lot of good deals to be had. It's still exciting to get and handle an unslabbed pre war card in your hands. I have two cards coming for my type collection right now. I have had good success with getting them slabbed too. Only one authentic so far an E106 Zimmerman and many others came back higher than I expected. |
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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
Large lots (20-200+ cards) of naked BB cards are usually very safe buys. These deals are usually from original collections |
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Posted By: Sean BH
I always ask the seller for measurements and a guarantee that they are unaltered, authentic and will grade (always keep e-mails just incase). If I don't hear back, I pass and spend my money elsewhere. No problems yet. |
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Buying raw cards on ebay
Posted By: joe
Before slab grading was invented I bought about a dozen T205 cards at shows in the late 1980's. Submitted to SGC about 3 years ago and 8 or 9 came back trimmed. I just sold those on ebay with the SGC plastic sleeves. So who knows when some of these cards are trimmed. |
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Posted By: Gilbert Maines
Are this many cards actually trimmed, or are the grading companies being overcautious on this subject? |
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Posted By: Chris
I buy about 70% of my cards raw. I have had good luck returning cards that have been trimmed or altered. I spend as much time checking out the sellers feedback as their item description. |
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Buying raw cards on ebay
Posted By: Tim Newcomb
I don't think anyone should bid on raw cards on ebay anymore. They are at least 90% fakes, trim-jobs, iron-jobs, and anthrax-laced xeroxes(joke). In fact, I hope not to see any of you bidding on anything raw ever again, as that will be more that I can afford (oh what a giveaway) |
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