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Posted By: Trae R.
Someone contacted me through T206.org and asked what I knew about them. |
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Posted By: Joseph
Thank goodness Andy Warhol never saw these cards... |
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Posted By: Bill K
Those are awesome! If indeed real I can't imagine owing a more unique pre-war card than one with a laxitive ad on the back. |
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Posted By: joe brennan
Trae, Do you think this was done during a print run for bitters. Maybe after a complete run of T206's to test the print? Print scraps that made there way out the door in a printers pocket? |
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Posted By: Jason L
after a test run earlier in the day! |
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Posted By: Kevin Saucier
I don't know the answer but I sure would like to own one. |
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Posted By: Max Weder
"Test runs" and "laxitives" conjure up some unwanted imagery. |
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Posted By: Darren
Trae, |
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Posted By: Trae R.
Darren, there are 4 addtl. cards, all over sized top to bottom. There aren't any HOF'ers. |
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Posted By: Mike
Tell him to throw them on eBay as individual cards... ideally after getting them authenticated. I wouldn't want 12 of them, but it would be neat for most collectors to have one of them. |
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Posted By: Trae R.
Check this out, some of them are starting to fit together! It would be neat if someone else had the remaining pieces to this puzzle and we could put an entire sheet together?! |
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Posted By: Trae R.
Woah, and even cooler, I found part of what is printed on the back. Look in the second row of 3 that line up and you can make out this postcard: |
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Posted By: Trae R.
Thanks to Andrew (for the email!) I realized this (other side of postcard) is also printed on there! |
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Posted By: Trae R.
The bottom row clearly also depicts a lady with a nice period hat on, set at an angle on her hand. Although I can't find anything online to show the actual photo being used there, any ideas? |
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Posted By: Joann
Wow. Every time I think I've seen the coolest thing I've ever seen on this board (the W555 camera/candy box being the most recent), something like this comes up. |
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Posted By: Jason L
I share your views on the importance of the group... |
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Posted By: Trae R.
This is so very cool! My only thoughts right now on the post-card being from 1904 is that: |
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Posted By: Trae R.
I just noticed there is also an obvious absence of a color (orange?) in these cards on the "sheet". |
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Posted By: joe brennan
No doubt the date on the postcard is wrong. Anyone finding a postally used postcard would pretty much seal it. |
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Posted By: barry arnold
Many thanks, Trae! |
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Posted By: Trae R.
Can you all please bookmark this thread in case you see any of these come up for sale to complete the puzzle? Thanks! |
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Posted By: Mike Peich
Trae--This is a great find, and thanks for sharing it with us. I will try and clear up some of the mystery surrounding the overprints based on the research I've done in American printing practices. I should also add that I make books by hand, so I practice what I research and preach. |
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Posted By: MVSNYC
mike- very informative, thanks... |
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Posted By: Trae R.
Thanks Mike for taking the time to post, that makes perfect sense! |
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Posted By: Joe D.
I agree with everything said about the waste sheets - but I am not so sure that is what happened here. |
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Posted By: MVSNYC
Joey D...sup man? |
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Posted By: scott brockelman
While it lines up better on the second try, it is not exact, I believe there were many more cards, obviously the back printing is duplicated many times. The small group above lines up to show the laxative print, but they are not in the exact position as originally made. |
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Posted By: Joe D.
The Piedmonts line up nicely left to right (within the rows) |
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Posted By: MVSNYC
joe- i will defer to your trained "printer's eye"...but when i look at Trae's post from july 2, 9:15pm...those 6 cards appear to line up really well (near perfect)...BUT, again, you probably have a better eye for this... |
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Posted By: Joe D.
I took Trae's image and dropped in vertical lines (in green) to show how poorly the units line up vertically. |
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Posted By: Mike Peich
Hi Joe, |
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Posted By: Joe D.
Mike, |
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Posted By: boxingcardman
I know the owner of these cards and he doesn't think they like up together as an uncut group that was trimmed down by hand from scrap. |
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Posted By: David R
I am the owner of these cards. Thanks to everyone for all the great information and to Trae for his great sleuthing in finding the actual laxative ad postcard on eBay. After reading all the posts and looking at the cards again, I think Scott Brockelman has it right. I think these were all cut from a single sheet of printers scrap that had multiple copies of the ad, but that the top group of three and the bottom group of three that Trae put together from the scan don't actually fit together on the sheet. I think there are two groups of three that fit together side by side and two other cards that fit together top to bottom to form a bottle. I don't think the two groups of three fit together top to bottom because (1) the piedmont cuts don't line up that way and (2) the text printing for the ad doesn't all actually line up that way if you look at it closely. I think Scott B is right that the top group of three and the bottom group of three actually came from different sections of the larger sheet but were not next to each top to bottom on the original sheet. |
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Posted By: Joe D.
I missed your post. |
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