Need Diamond Stars help

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Posted By: Jim

I need some help. I just found a place where an "absentee card dealer" has some Diamond Stars for sale. Condition seems to be about g-vg on average. Prices range from $15-20 for a few, $30 on average for most with Kiki Cuyler($50) and Al Lopez ($250) being the best players.

What should average prices be? What cards are more important in the set?

HELP!!

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Posted By: Mike

Sounds like a pretty fair price for the commons and the Cuyler, but I'd make sure that the Lopez was in really nice shape before I spent $250 on it. Just my 2 cents...
Mike

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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

I agree... $15 to $20 sounds good... I'd like a few. Up towards $30 each I'd not want so many... and $250 sounds like too much. I'm frugal and live in the past when it come to pricing, so what you have may well be a good opportunity to get several all at once. Much better than buying them one at a time on eBay and spending enough on shipping to have bought half a dozen more cards.

I like Diamond Stars... it is somewhat overlooked. Goudey dominates that time in baseball.

Frank.

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Posted By: Jim

The Shipp card was $15 and the Berger was $20. I think the Shipp was about G and the Berger maybe G-VG. The Cuyler was about G, give or take. I may go back and grab those 2 or 3. There were a few spots in the case open where it looks like someone beat me to the punch on some.

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Posted By: Rick

too much for raw

you could get psa 3 - 5 cards for around 20 bucks on ebay.

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Posted By: Marty

#97-108 are very tough and would be a great buy at those pricesf any are there.

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Posted By: Kenneth A. Cohen

If the Lopez card is the high number version #97, the price is more in line. If he's asking $250, I would assume it is. If however it is G/VG, seems pretty steep to me. Just my opinion.
Ken

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Posted By: peter chao

Guys,

Diamond Stars is missing the big-name stars. Instead, perhaps the biggest names are Lefty Grove and Jimmy Foxx, both Ruth and Gehrig missing.

Peter

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Posted By: Anonymous

I've been building this set in PSA 5 and am about 12% complete. On average, I pay $20-$25 for a common in PSA 5 (not including shipping).

This is for commons that are numbered 97 or less. 97-108 are very hard to come by.

In my humble opinion...

I think $50 is too much for a Kuyler that isn't in at least EX condition. I also wouldn't spend that much on the Lopez. You can get that one on Ebay for $75 or less in PSA 5+ (most days). Unless of course it's #97. If so, $250 is a decent price for a strong VG card.

The most important cards differ from collector to collector. It depends on if you're building the Master Set or just Basic set. This set has a few front variations, back colors and copyright dates, etc. Top three accoridng to Beckett value are #1 Lefty Grove, #103 Bill Dickey, and #54 Hank "Greenburg". Other key cards are Pie Traynor, Rogers Hornsby, Hank "Greenberg", and Jimmie Foxx to name a few. Also, like I said before, cards numbered 97-108 are tough to come by and are also considered high-value key cards.

-Ray

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Posted By: Jim

From the list of cards 97-108, I know that they have the following:

97 Al Lopez (I believe it is this oen and not the other)
98 Schoolboy Rowe
102 Van Mungo
108 Walter Berger

If these cards are G-VG, would $30 per card or so be out of line with the scarcity level?

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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

Those would be good buys.

Buy those tonight, or if not now, in the morning.

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Posted By: Jim

The antique store is closed now and will be on Monday too. Late Tuesday would be my best shot.

Here's the complete list of what they had and the prices. I didnt get a close look at every card but they look to be all G-VG. From what I'm seeing on the net, I think that these prices are very high.

8 Joe Vosmik $30
10 Roy Mahaffey $60
12 Dixie Walker $45
19 Van Mungo $95
22 Jimmy Wilson $20
25 Walter Berger $20
28 Al Lopez $250
31 Kiki Cuyler $50
33 Schoolboy Rowe $40
40 Blondy Ryan $25
42 Jimmy Dykes $30
45 Jo Jo White $30
46 Red Lucas $30
47 Cliff Bolton $20
53 Oscar Melillo $25
57 Cy Blanton $20
66 Ducky Medwick $55
82 John Babich $50
85 Julius Solters $35 and 40 (2 cards)
87 Steve O'Neill $45
89 Joe Stripp $15
91 Bucky Harris $75
93 Alvin Crowder $75
96 Lew Riggs $75
97 Al Lopez
98 Schoolboy Rowe
102 Van Mungo
106 Red Lucas
108 Walter Berger

The Mungo, Berger, Lopez, Lucas and Rowe are listed twice because I dont know which ones they were.

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Posted By: Rick McQuillan

Jim, you forgot to mention the name, address, and telephone number of the antique store!

Rick

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Posted By: peter chao

Guys,

Lopez belongs to the last tier of HOFs, I would not pay a premium for his cards. The Jimmy Foxx card is interesting because it has a picture of him in a catcher's pose.

Peter

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Posted By: Jim

Jim, you forgot to mention the name, address, and telephone number of the antique store!

Rick


Oh my bad, its called............GOTCHA

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Posted By: peter chao

Guys,

How many versions are there of card #1 '34- '35 Diamond Stars Lefty Grove.

Peter

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Posted By: Ray

There are two Lefty Grove #1 backs. One is 1934 Green ink, the other is 1935 Green ink.

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Posted By: Al C.risafulli

The high numbers from this set are VERY tough in any grade, and if you can get them at $30 each, get them. I got to 40% on this set (among the most beautiful prewar cards, IMO) and only had one high #. Eventually I sold off most of the cards, but really regret doing so because it's such a beautiful set.

The low numbers are also a challenge.

Lopez may be a third-tier HOFer, but the scarcity of the high # card makes this a pretty tough one.

As others have said, mid-series commons can be had pretty cheap. But if you're interested in building a beautiful prewar set, the lack of a Ruth and Gehrig makes this set a very affordable option, even in mid and higher grades.

-Al