Relative value for different Cobb caramel cards

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Posted By: Wesley

What is the fair market value for each of the cards below?

PSA 3 E90-1 Cobb
PSA 3 E92 Cobb
PSA 3 E93 Cobb
PSA 3 E94 Cobb
PSA 3 E95 Cobb
PSA 3 E98 Cobb
PSA 3 E101 Cobb
PSA 3 E102 Cobb
PSA 3 E103 Cobb
PSA 3 E105 Cobb
PSA 3 E106 Cobb

I don't think all of these cards exist in PSA 3 grade so this is only a hypothetical question. I am just curious about how these card compare to one another in terms of value and in terms of popularity.

I would rank them from most difficult to easiest as follows:

E105
E94
E103
E92
E101
E102
E98
E106
E95
E93
E90-1

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Posted By: joe maples

I would like to have this information too. I might be able to win one in an auction.

Joe

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Posted By: quan

i'd say the e103 is tougher than the e94, and the e106 is certainly scarcer than the e98, maybe even a few more spots up. the e95 is common, but due to the great pose and lithograph it's a popular card. anybody have or got a scan of an e92 nadja cobb? i'd like to see that one.

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Posted By: Brian E.

Wes, this doesn't have anything to do with two VG Cobb Es ending today does it?

BTW: I would agree that E102s are just slightly more common than 101s but I disagree that E95s are more difficult than E93s. Lately, there have been more E93 Cobbs on ebay than E95s but over the summer the reverse was true.

Brian E.

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Posted By: Jeff

Wes,
Hopefully you are not selling all of these J/K. This is only a guess, obviously it will depend on whether it is a high end 3 or a low end 3. A couple of these I don't have a guess because I cant remember seeing them for sale recently.

PSA 3 E90-1 Cobb 1300- 1000
PSA 3 E92 Cobb ? Would depend on the back
PSA 3 E93 Cobb 1400-1100
PSA 3 E94 Cobb 3150-2850
PSA 3 E95 Cobb 1500-1200
PSA 3 E98 Cobb 2250-1950
PSA 3 E101 Cobb ?
PSA 3 E102 Cobb 2900-2600
PSA 3 E103 Cobb ?
PSA 3 E105 Cobb ?
PSA 3 E106 Cobb ?

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Posted By: JimB

I also think the E93 is tougher than E95.
JimB

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Posted By: david

the crofts cocoa and the nadja are probably tied for two. i collect them and have seen less then five of both cards combined

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Posted By: Brian E.

I would guess that a VG slabbed 101 is worth $2500! Actually that's what the BVG 3 just closed at.

I suppose I'm happy with the 102 VG I picked up this summer! Probably not as scarce, but generally viewed as more valuable than the 101.

Brian E.

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Posted By: quan

times they are a changin' brian...i would think the e102 was viewed as more desireable because of the 1908 dating. Now that it's been proven the set was probably issued sometime around mid 1910, the shine has been taken off somewhat. i had been looking for an e102 cobb for years believing it was his rookie card, but now i'd probably want an e92 croft or nadja because it's so damn tough.

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Posted By: Jeff

In the last 5 years it seems that almost all of the e102 Cobb's I have seen have been very low condition(except for BCD,s) and a couple of others. I think it is a hard card to get in even vg. or better.

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Posted By: Brian E.

Quan, I completely agree. What attracted me most to the 102 Cobb was the 1908 date, I don't consider PCs cards and I didn't like the then "1907" W555. Now it appears that several different issues (T206, several E's) can all be considered his rookie.

I wonder if the 101 will eventually overtake the 102 in value, any thoughts?

As for desiring an E92; I would gladly take a 92 or 94 over nearly all my Cobb cards.

Brian E.

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Posted By: Dan Koteles

E101 ......went for 2576.00 tonite, wow !
E102 Dock 2k CR.Ca 4k CR.Co 6k
E103 3500.00.I have one in what should be a high 5 - 12k
course that is the at home Dan Koteles price guide !
E105 10-15k
E106 5k......dont see these and hardly any player is found that much.

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Posted By: Wesley

The E101 Cobb that sold on ebay tonight was graded by Beckett. I think if the card were in a PSA holder, the price would have been more than $3200 easily. Very nice pickup for the winner.

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Posted By: Brian E.

Many months went by this summer with no E93 Cobbs showing up on Ebay. One finally appeared, went for a pretty price and nearly a half dozen showed up in 2-3 months that followed.

I suspect we'll be seeing a few 101 Cobbs follow in the same path as the E93.

Brian E.

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Posted By: Richard

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Posted By: david

as far as the crofts cocoa is concerned the last card sold that i know of was in poor condition and went for 5k in a private sale. at auction the card would have gone higher

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Posted By: quan

there's no documented dockman cobb...next one you see will be the first, and should go for big bucks. but then again it'll also be a fake or rebacked, since there's no dockman cobb.

edited to add i may be wrong, but looking at the pop report i don't think we'll be seeing a bunch of e101 cobbs start appearing anytime soon. the pop may not be an accurate indication of the total number of cards, but it's a good reflection of the scarcity.

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Posted By: jay behrens

Quan, what's the pop report say about e101 Wagner?

Jay

I've just reached Upper Lower Class. I am now officially a babe magnet for poor chicks.

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Posted By: quan

not as many graded as the e102 wagner...3 throwing and 6 batting (this is psa). generally you'll see more batting pose than the throwing variation. sgc don't distinguish between throwing/batting but there's been 6 graded wagner e101s and 16 e102s.

i keep bringing up e101 and e102 because they're the most closely-linked together...the next kin would be the e92s but they're so skewed because of the difference in scarcity within each subset.

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Posted By: Wesley

As far as graded population for Cobb cards, the PSA and the SGC population reports show the following:


Issue (PSA) SGC

E90-1 (62) 31
E95 (55) 37
E93 (28) 24
E98 (20) 12
E94 (15) 10
E102 (12) 17
E101 (10) 7
E106 (8) 2
E103 (8) 3
E92 Croft Candy (6) 4
E105 (1) 0

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Posted By: Wesley

Even though some of the cards seem to have much higher populations, there is almost no comparison to populations for tobacco cards.

According to the PSA population report, PSA has graded 231 T205 Cobb cards, 729 T206 Red Cobb cards, 349 T206 bat on Cobb cards, 402 T206 bat off Cobb cards, and 287 T206 Green Cobb cards.

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Posted By: joe maples

I was bidding on both of those Cobb cards graded by Beckett and had decided to bid higher, but got cold feet because of the grading company. Questions and concerns from board members about possible trimming and overgrading scared me away.

Joe

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Posted By: tbob

Didn't the gold E94 Cobb in Mastro go for around $18k with the juice?
I've seen or, in some cases, owned a Cobb(s) in the E94 set in every color except olive. For some reason I have never even seen an olive one. Olive in general, within the set, is not as tough as blue, gold or purple, but with the Cobb...

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Posted By: Jeff

Wes,
I know for sure 5 of those on the SGC population report for Cobb are regrades and none were done by me. The Wagner report is also off a couple that I know of.

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Posted By: Richard

Ah, didn't realize that there is no Cobb Dockman. I was just trying to extrapolate based on relative scarcity of the sets. I guess 1500 would be a steal then

But then again, nothing gets by Quan...

Jeff - which sets have the inaccurate count due to the 5 regrades?