Graded Miscut cards

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Posted By: Judge Dred (Fred)

It's funny how everyone pounds on PSA for their blunders. SGC makes mistakes too. There are two scans below. One was labeled AUT (authentic) and the other received a grade of SGC20. Same issue of cards (N172) but they had to have been reviewed by two different graders with two different standards. If I were the submitter of the AUT labeled card I would be pretty unhappy about this. The SGC20 card appears more miscut (I don't want to say trimmed) than the AUT labeled card.

Am I imagining that the SGC20 card looks miscut? Does anyone else agree? I've seen a few "miscut" jobs, but this ones a total "hack" job. How it got into an SGC20 holder is beyond me. This is just my opinion, of course.

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Posted By: Kevin Cummings

Technicalities aside, strictly from an aesthetic point of view the Ewing and mascot has far better eye appeal that the Sprague.

I think it's fair to say that it would be impossible for those two cards to have been graded by the same person since the grader of the Sprague was far more lenient (both the left and bottom borders are miscut).

Seeing the two together makes me wonder why the Sprague wasn't given the "AUTHENTIC" designation and the Ewing a numerical grade.

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Posted By: identify7

I believe that it is a grading company's job to direct their attention to the degree of preservation of a baseball card only. Imposing their criteria upon the variances of the manufacturer's process and result is totally inappropriate, imho.

Both examples offered above should therefore be graded Mint. Assuming they are unaltered and unworn.

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Posted By: warshawlaw

Do you mean "trimmed" instead of "miscut"? Because there is no problem for a grading company to grade a miscut card--they do it all the time. Trimmed is a different story. The lower card looks damaged to me, not altered. The upper card looks altered. IF SGC slabbed it as authentic of its own volition, I am guessing that they made the same determination.

BTW, 1.5 is too high for it--my card in that shape gets a "1".

Also, do you know whether SGC was asked to authenticate or whether it did so itself? If you ask them not to grade just to authenticate, they will.

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Posted By: Brian E.

I know PSA grades miscuts and gives the MC qualifier. But what about SGC? I recently had a card kicked back from them for being Miscut (as opposed to trimmed).





Brian E.

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Posted By: Kevin Cummings

I don't think either of the Old Judge card pictured above are trimmed. If SGC is saying that the Ewing card is, in fact, trimmed it is not readily apparent to me by naked eye. I'm assuming it is the upper left corner that prompted the decision and that corner looks to be rounded (minor as it is) consistenly with the other three. On the other hand, the bottom of the Sprague has much sharper corners a very wavy cut.

If both cards were raw and someone asked me to guess which one might be trimmed, I'd guess the Sprague.