Did you guys ( and Jules ) see this! (Hager lawsuit)

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Posted By: BcD 

http://www.k6az.com/acg/acg_lawsuit.htm

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Posted By: runscott

and friends wonder why I've lost interest in "organized" collecting...of anything. Hope you guys are doing well - I just popped in to see if anything new and exciting was going on. See you in the chat room.

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Posted By: Anonymous

I have a good story how Hager ripped me off. If someone wants me the contact the judge, please let me know. I could not wish enough bad things for ASA & Hager!

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Posted By: jay behrens

tough to contact an anonymous person

Jay

I like to sit outside, drink beer and yell at people. If I did this at home I would be arrested, so I go to baseball games and fit right in.

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Posted By: david

i would like to know who considers hager an expert in coins and cards, is he using himself as a ref. also, it is interesting that vcbc is not listed after reading their article about him in one of their early issues

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Posted By: warshawlaw

All that happens is that your business practices get held up for scrutiny as a basis for a defense. Every disgruntled customer and employee becomes a witness against you. As a plaintiff, you really have to consider whether a pissant dispute hurts your business sufficiently to force you to war. Frankly, the publicist who said that good or bad publicity were the same as long as they spelled your name right had the idea. I doubt that Hager would lose business over the long haul if he'd just left things alone. After all, as much as we bitch and whine about certain dealers and graders, they still stay in business.

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Posted By: Mark

I am representing PRO Grading, FGS and mintgrading.com and in their respective defamtion law suits. Heck, I may even start up my own grading company (it's real so long as it doesn't say reprint, right?) just so I can sue ayone who dares question my methodology. All your N43s, Uncle Jacks and Texas Tommy Type IIs will be mine..haha!

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Posted By: AAA

Mark,

Are you kidding? You mean you aren't going to represent AAA or VSA? Do you or do you not provide an equal opportunity service to represent the bottom of the bell curve graders?

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Posted By: jay behrens

Let's not leave NASA out of this. That's paper cut out company, not the space agency. Personally, I'm surprised they haven't gotten a cease and desist order for using those intials.

Jay

I like to sit outside, drink beer and yell at people. If I did this at home I would be arrested, so I go to baseball games and fit right in.

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Posted By: hankron

As Oscar Wilde discovered, libel suits don't always go as planned (Wilde sued for libel and, after reviewing the evidence, the Judge sentence Wilde to hard labor).

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Posted By: Mark

Man, this board is good for business.

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Posted By: Max Weder

NASA proves the old adage about the danger of running with scissors--- and slabbing the results. I just wonder if their evil brains (the slabbers, not Houston) are set such that they cut up collectible versions of the old guides, rather than junky copies. Anybody have a sense of their operational method on this point?

Max

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Posted By: ramram

I've watched the guides that sell on ebay and he buys any and all. If he keeps it up mine will be worth a fortune soon.

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Posted By: Richard Dwyer

What did Alan Hagar do, to get sued by so many?

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Posted By: Max

Well, that's a capital offence, and enough to make me change my view on capital punishment.

Max

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Posted By: jay behrens

Richard, Alan Hagar is the one suing all the collectors, not the other way around.

Jay

I like to sit outside, drink beer and yell at people. If I did this at home I would be arrested, so I go to baseball games and fit right in.

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Posted By: Richard Dwyer

What is Hagar suing for?

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Posted By: ramram

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Posted By: barrysloate

Just a note about Hager's Accugrade. I have a card in my upcoming September auction (N28 Ward) that is in an Accugrade holder. It received an EX-NM grade. It in fact has noticeable corner wear and a light crease. I have regraded it VG, and it's a weak VG at that. I am most curious at how he or anyone associated with the company came up with that grade. It was clearly fraudulent.I'm sure there are hundreds of similar examples too.

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Posted By: The Other One (Julie)

But I guess all Hagar loves is the green stuff...

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Posted By: warshawlaw

should be in-accu-grade. blank back 1948 leaf boxers, misrepresented as proofs and overgraded to boot, but the price was right...once of these days i'll get ambitious and organize a card jail-break for them.