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Old Judge Roger Connor
Posted By: Ryan Christoff
I recently completed a trade where I acquired an N172 Roger Connor. It is the "hands on knees" pose, which I was told is extremely rare. Can anyone verify this and estimate the number of examples that might exist with this pose? |
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Old Judge Roger Connor
Posted By: Jay Miller
Two points: |
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Old Judge Roger Connor
Posted By: Halleygator
Having said that... Keep in mind that Jay charged me a premium when he sold me this one: |
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Old Judge Roger Connor
Posted By: Jay Miller
Hal--Read what I said above: Connor is a relatively scarce HOFer but this is not a scarce Connor pose. This is not tobacco litigation, this is something serious. |
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Old Judge Roger Connor
Posted By: Julie
because it's the same one on the A35--just a personal thing. (Goodwin Round Album). |
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Old Judge Roger Connor
Posted By: Ryan Christoff
Does anyone have a guess on how many might exist? Just looking for a rough estimate of scarcity. Are there 5 with this pose? 25? |
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Old Judge Roger Connor
Posted By: Jay Miller
You are asking a question that no one knows the answer to. I would guess, and this is just a very rough guess, that 100 Connor N172s exist. If that were the case, I would say that about 40 of this pose exist. |
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Old Judge Roger Connor
Posted By: Ryan Christoff
Jay, |
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Old Judge Roger Connor
Posted By: Halleygator
Jay: |
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Old Judge Roger Connor
Posted By: Halleygator
Jay: |
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Old Judge Roger Connor
Posted By: john(z28jd)
Im definitely not going to speak for Jay,but i think just because Connor is approx. 9th ill say according to Jay,it doesnt mean overall hes in the top 1/3 as far as every player goes. The hall of famers,were for the most part the most popular players back then so they should be a little easier to find in packs back then(a few players who were at the beginning of their career are exceptions,as well as Anson and McPhee). |
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Old Judge Roger Connor
Posted By: Kevin Cummings
Those pesky Larry Corcoran cards can be a dickens to find! |
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Old Judge Roger Connor
Posted By: Julie
than ALL the rarest HOFers in the OJ set. More I don't know. |
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Old Judge Roger Connor
Posted By: Halleygator
You guys are of course correct. I am sure that the "nobody" cards got thrown away by people in 1890...and are now impossible to find. |
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Old Judge Roger Connor
Posted By: john(z28jd)
Kevin,my best guess is that Larry is at a bar somewhere right now about to beat the crap out of Orator Shaffer because he wont shut up |
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Old Judge Roger Connor
Posted By: Anonymous
Orator: So Corcoran, why did your career turn to **** so quickly? |
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Old Judge Roger Connor
Posted By: runscott
I was getting into this Connor thing and forgot myself. |
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Old Judge Roger Connor
Posted By: john(z28jd)
c'mon Scott! get to the part where he beats him up! Dont forget about grasshopper Whitney jumping out of the place because it was starting to get heated up |
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Old Judge Roger Connor
Posted By: Jay Miller
Hal--I'll give you guesses but they are not worth much. For the scarcest HOFers I would say there are maybe 50 cards. For the most common HOFers, the Keefes, Clarksons and Brouthers of the world, I would say there are maybe 500 cards each. For example, there are 14 variations of McPhee that are known. Even though his card is one of the scarcest I find it hard to believe that there are not at least three cards, on average, of each variation. |
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Old Judge Roger Connor
Posted By: Kevin Cummings
John: |
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Old Judge Roger Connor
Posted By: john(z28jd)
we will see what Scott says about this! |
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Old Judge Roger Connor
Posted By: runscott
Billy Sunday was most likely to have been saved... |
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Old Judge Roger Connor
Posted By: Kenny Cole
about Deacon White. He was about as pious as Billy. |
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Old Judge Roger Connor
Posted By: john(z28jd)
ok,i wasnt gonna say something but an email Kevin sent has me thinking........Hal thats a nice Connor butt(and i put 2 t's in that word for pun purpose) i dont know if i would want that card,i see its the hands on knees pose,and he has an intense look on his face,so whats that thing about knee high between his legs on the picture? |
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Old Judge Roger Connor
Posted By: Halleygator
It's on the card ... but hopefully it is just a glitch from someone who mishandled the card over the past 125 years and NOT a "dropping dungball" as it does appear. |
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Old Judge Roger Connor
Posted By: runscott
Next thing someone will find a variation with a puddle on the carpet. |
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Old Judge Roger Connor
Posted By: Jay Miller
Scott--That is sometimes seen on the Whitney with Dog card |
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Old Judge Roger Connor
Posted By: Halleygator
THIS must be why Jay said my card was so "rare" when he sold it to me!! |
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Old Judge Roger Connor
Posted By: david
while not being near the expert on oj that jay is i will just add that the browns champs are probably somewhere in between a middle and an easy hof and the spotted ties are up there with the toughest cards in the set. jay, would you agree? |
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Old Judge Roger Connor
Posted By: john(z28jd)
he brings up a good point about the browns champion cards,is this Connors considered a "Browns champion" card? |
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Old Judge Roger Connor
Posted By: Jay Miller
1-Connor is not a Brown's Champ as...he didn't play for the Browns. Brown's Champs are a seperate 1887 subseries(see Lew's Book) |
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Old Judge Roger Connor
Posted By: john(z28jd)
from the jokes arent funny when you have to explain them department: |
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Old Judge Roger Connor
Posted By: david
jay, |
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Old Judge Roger Connor
Posted By: Halleygator
John: |
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Old Judge Roger Connor
Posted By: david
jay |
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