Advice on 2 R310 Butterfinger Premiums glued to a page

[UKCardGuy]

I picked up these 2 R310 Butterfingers for next to nothing. They look in OK shape but they're glued to both sides of what seems to be an old scrapbook page.

I've soaked a few cards like 1940 playball from a page and it turned out well. But thee Butterfingers are really thin.

If I have a reasonable chance of salvaging these, I'll give it a go. But if there's no change, I'll just leave them as it.

Anyone have any experience with soaking these?
Advise is welcome.

Thanks

[nolemmings]

I have no experience in soaking, but would leave these alone. They are incredibly thin and brittle on their own as it is. In fact, when I insert them in plastic pages, I first slide a thin cardboard backing into the page and then carefully add the R310 onto that and let it ride into the page-- no need to see the blank back. I can barely imagine one of these surviving a soak, and even less so believing it would display without noticeable damage or warping. Frankly, these are so delicate I am convinced they are damaged if you even use harsh language in their presence.

[FrankWakefield]

If I were going to try to remove those, I'd first go buy a package of 8 1/2 x 11 card stock. I'd have that ready for blotting. Repetitive blotting.

They are thin. I've not soaked one before, but they should soak, depending on what holds them to the scrapbook page.

If the edge of the less valuable of one of them will lift up slightly, see if you can dampen the edge of a piece of typing paper, then slide the damp edge of the typing paper in between the Butterfinger and the scrapbook page. The idea is to moisten that substance that holds them to one another. If it's flour paste it should loosen a bit. And if it does, then you should be able to soak that scrapbook page for a long while in a Pyrex dish that will accommodate the page laying flat. Every few hours gently pour out the nasty water and add some clean tap water.

Eventually they'll loosen. Then you must GENTLY rinse one of them off as best you can, and lay it on the cardstock.

Something to be aware of... BEWARE, the wet Buttercream will self-destruct if you aren't careful; think this through... the bottom two thirds of a wet Buttercream will me so heavy that it'll tear itself from the top third that you might be holding... so what to do? Gradually and slowly lift out a corner, not a side. slowly lift it out. That can give the water time to run off of the Butterfinger so it will be less likely to pull apart. Have sheets of cardstock ready to accept the Butterfinger. I think I'd rather have the cardstock at an angle, rather than flat. When the Butterfinger starts laying on the cardstock it will stick there due to the hydraulic tension, and depending on how you're moving the Butterfinger, you may find yourself pulling it into separate pieces. Go slowly...

If all of that scares you a bit, try laying an 8 x 10 piece of newsprint in water, then after it is wet through, lift up a CORNER, not edge, and lift it out of the water and try to lay it on cardstock.

One more concern. If you've not soaked off all of the paste, or if the water still has a bit of paste in it, then you may find the Butterfinger stuck to the cardstock. Don't try to work it off of there, soak it off.

If it isn't paste holding the Premiums onto the scrapbook page, then you probably can't separate them.

Slow, careful, gently... all after you have stuff ready. Todd makes good points above, and haste will have you frustrated with the damage that you can do to those.

[raulus]

I agree with the notion that these are really thin and brittle.

I'm not positive how much they're worth, but this isn't a T206 Wagner or a 311 Mantle that we're talking about.

So the value here might be next to nothing whether you leave it on or take it off. And given how much damage they might endure in the process, I would be really hesitant to try it.

I suppose you've got next to nothing to lose since you got them for next to nothing. But you might even lose that much even if you're really, really careful.

[NiceDocter]

Man those look great just as they are. Now I’m considering gluing mine onto some nice stiff cardboard!!! Lol

[UKCardGuy]

Originally Posted by NiceDocter

Man those look great just as they are. Now I’m considering gluing mine onto some nice stiff cardboard!!! Lol

LOL! Thanks guys. I get the message. I'm going to leave them as is.

They'll look good in a binder in an UltraPro 8x10 page.

[BobC]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

I have no experience in soaking, but would leave these alone. They are incredibly thin and brittle on their own as it is. In fact, when I insert them in plastic pages, I first slide a thin cardboard backing into the page and then carefully add the R310 onto that and let it ride into the page-- no need to see the blank back. I can barely imagine one of these surviving a soak, and even less so believing it would display without noticeable damage or warping. Frankly, these are so delicate I am convinced they are damaged if you even use harsh language in their presence.

+1 What Todd said.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

I'd be terrified to muck with these. They are practically printed on newsprint. I have two albums full of Team Picture Pack Cards and they're on better stock and we're selling them as albums.

[jethrod3]

I have several of these and personally I would not mess with them. Several of them started to disintegrate at the edges and corners when I tried to place them in sleeves. These are literally the most fragile memorabilia items I have ever handled!!