The most underappreciated 8 year pitching stretch in MLB History?

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

IP ER W K CG SHO SVS ERA WHIP
2082 686 138 1143 99 22 53 2.97 1.18


He was a reliever FIRST for 3 years. I also could've skewed the percentage stats a LOT by leaving off the last two years that I included.

Modern pitcher, he also put up 49.5 WAR in those 8 years. One of the many interesting guys who gets no love.

[Jim65]

Who is it?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Wilbur Wood?

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

You're no fun Peter.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

If you want truly crazy numbers (even for a knuckleballer) he was a starter for basically 5 years. in those 5 years he won 106 games, pitched 1681.2 innings (WOW) 99 Complete Games and 22 shutouts. That's a career for a lot of decent pitchers.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

If you want truly crazy numbers (even for a knuckleballer) he was a starter for basically 5 years. in those 5 years he won 106 games, pitched 1681.2 innings (WOW) 99 Complete Games and 22 shutouts. That's a career for a lot of decent pitchers.

He lost a lot of games too lol.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Looking at his FIP and his ERA+ that was basically a function of the White Sox being awful. Like Niekro winning and losing 20 in the same season for the 70's Braves.

[barrysloate]

Didn't he go 24-20 one season? And I know I can look it up.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Wood did go 24-20, Niekro went 21 -20 one year.

[D. Bergin]

Yeah, I remember stumbling across his stats a little while ago and being pretty blown away by that stretch.

68 Sox has both him and Hoyt Wilhelm and Bob Locker in the bullpen, almost untouchable and eating up tons of innings, while they had Tommy John, Gary Peters and a pretty effective starting rotation, and still ended up almost 30 games below .500.

The offense on that team had to be historically atrocious.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

Yeah, I remember stumbling across his stats a little while ago and being pretty blown away by that stretch.

68 Sox has both him and Hoyt Wilhelm and Bob Locker in the bullpen, almost untouchable and eating up tons of innings, while they had Tommy John, Gary Peters and a pretty effective starting rotation, and still ended up almost 30 games below .500.

The offense on that team had to be historically atrocious.

Pete Ward led the team with 15 HR and 50 RBI. Even in the year of the pitcher that's pretty anemic. The entire team hit 71 HR.

[frankbmd]

I think Stan Bahnsen is more underappreciated.

He was number two in the Sox effort to replicate

Spahn, Sain and pray for rain.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

I think Stan Bahnsen is more underappreciated.

He was number two in the Sox effort to replicate

Spahn, Sain and pray for rain.

We need some modern equivalents.

Syndergaard, deGrom, and pray for a bomb?

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Keshaw and Buhler and Ryu and May and Urias and Maeda and Hill and Gonsolin and...

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Keshaw and Buhler and Ryu and May and Urias and Maeda and Hill and Gonsolin and...

...and pray for a translator?

[packs]

Tim Hudson has always been a guy I thought flew under the radar. He was a really great pitcher and won nearly 100 more games than he lost in a tough era to do that.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

I liked Hudson, and he's definitely superior to even some recently elected HOF ptichers, but I doubt he gets in. He was very consistent but rarely remarkable.

[commishbob]

The day he won both ends of a (sort of) doubleheader.

[CMIZ5290]

How about the most under appreciated stretch in three years, and maybe the best ever....Greg Maddux first three years as a Brave from 1993-95.... 55-17 W-L record, 680 Innings pitched, only 25 Home runs, ERA 1.77, 30 complete games

[packs]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

How about the most under appreciated stretch in three years, and maybe the best ever....Greg Maddux first three years as a Brave from 1993-95.... 55-17 W-L record, 680 Innings pitched, only 25 Home runs, ERA 1.77, 30 complete games

How about Randy Johnson from 1999 to 2001? He went 57 and 22 with a 2.54 ERA and 1,083 strike outs in only 707 innings, allowing only 590 hits.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

How about the most under appreciated stretch in three years, and maybe the best ever....Greg Maddux first three years as a Brave from 1993-95.... 55-17 W-L record, 680 Innings pitched, only 25 Home runs, ERA 1.77, 30 complete games

Nobody in history ever expanded the strike zone as much as Maddux did. I think he was a bit underappreciated because people love power pitchers, but if you liked to watch artistry, he was the man.

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Nobody in history ever expanded the strike zone as much as Maddux did. I think he was a bit underappreciated because people love power pitchers, but if you liked to watch artistry, he was the man.

Catfish was good at expanding the zone, too.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

Catfish was good at expanding the zone, too.

And Pedro.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Well if you want to go three years there's a LOT more pitchers you can choose though Wood gets even better over the shorter stretch with 19 Shut Outs, 1070 innings pitched(???!!!) 70 wins etc.

However for three year stretches, Pedro, Koufax, Kershaw, Big Unit, Maddux, hard to go wrong with any of those.

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Wood did go 24-20, Niekro went 21 -20 one year.

Niekro that year (1979) is the only pitcher to ever lead the league in wins and losses in the same season.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Tabe

Niekro that year (1979) is the only pitcher to ever lead the league in wins and losses in the same season.

My favorite (and truly incredible) Phil Niekro stat is that when he turned 30 he had 31 wins.

[Bigdaddy]

As long as it was before October.

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Nobody in history ever expanded the strike zone as much as Maddux did. I think he was a bit underappreciated because people love power pitchers, but if you liked to watch artistry, he was the man.

[chalupacollects]

How about Dave Stewart? 84 wins in 4 years 1987-1990, 41 complete games, 718 strikeouts... but also pitched for Oakland...