Ichiro Question

[Sivart31]

Is it possible to tell if any of his signatures are authentic? It seems like everything is just a wild string of incoherent pen strokes. I'm looking to get a reasonably priced card, but I'm reluctant to buy since his signature varies so wildly.

Any thoughts on this?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ichiro-Suzuk...wAAOSwzgBY4EJS

or this?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ichiro-Signe...kAAOSwwpdW8d0d

To me, they both look like a three year old scribbled on a baseball card, but then again, the PSA/JSA examples look like that too!

[packs]

I couldn't get the links to work but here's my Japanese rookie. I have no doubt about its authenticity:

[Sivart31]

Thanks - when was this signed? This is surprisingly more coherent (and quite visually appealing) than more recently examples. It's a Marlins card, so it was signed in the last year most likely.

[packs]

Not sure when it was signed but probably after he came to America. I also have this Ichiro American rookie:

[Sivart31]

Thanks - I'm just wondering if any of the ebay options could be authentic. I really don't know how 90% of ip contemporary autographs can be authenticated as most of them are totally indecipherable.

[Kco]

The first card listed is not even remotely close. The second card is closer, but still not authentic in my opinion, I've got one IP and two sit downs of ichiro and even his IP has some distinct markers which aren't there in either of these examples. His authentic auto resembles organized chaos, similar to Jeter. Very hard for a forger to get right. You can find plenty of sub $200 authentic Ichiro cards.