1913 T200 Fatima Card

[smotan_02]

I recently picked up a group of sports items and this was in there. Ebay search shows the legitimate ones and then a large grouping of reproductions. Is there a way you can tell the difference without sending it in for grading?






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[Leon]

That one is real and it is the rare vertical version!! You can tell by all of the characteristics of these cards.

[edhans]

Not always easy to tell from pictures. Genuine Fatimas (T200 and T222) were printed on very thin, brittle photogrqaphic paper. If yours is on thicker cardstock, it's certainly a reproduction. Also, They're rarely found without cracking and chipping. FWIW yours looks real from the pictures; and in terrific condition, as well.

[smotan_02]

Great news! This one is very thin and is somewhat shiny.



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[smotan_02]

Originally Posted by Leon

That one is real and it is the rare vertical version!! You can tell by all of the characteristics of these cards.

I see what you did there.

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[rjackson44]

Pretty card

[swarmee]

Great card; including one Jim Thorpe on it.

[drcy]

The Fatimas are actual photos on thin photopaper, with the back sides being matte (like regular paper) and the fronts being shinier/glossier. Also, as photos, the image will have no dot pattern.

[Kawika]

Scott: The T200 Fatima Giants card was the subject of one of the more fascinating threads to ever grace Net54. Had to do some sleuthing through the archives but eventually found it. Tim Cathey, a sharp-eyed detective who used to post here (his Dutch Revelle discoveries were also fantastic), found the source photograph for the Giants shot and saw that numerous players had been cut-and-pasted into the image. Mark Fimoff (bmarlowe1, the SABR ID expert aka "the ears guy") stepped in and demonstrated his genius by deconstructing the jigsaw puzzle of who-went-where. At first blush the old thread is chopped off at the knees and hard to follow because Tim's photo has a dead link. The photo is in the SABR Pictorial History Committee Newsletter article about Tim's find that Mark authored; I have appended a screen cap of it to my post.

Congrats on a lucky find!

Link to 2010 N54 thread: http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=119887

Link to Mark's May 2010 SABR article (rigorous forensics and lots of interesting detail): http://www.sabr.org/cmsFiles/Files/Mysteryphoto5-10.pdf

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Shame about the surface damage to Wiltse, looks almost like a cigarette burn. If not for that it is one of the nicest I've seen. Will grade low, but sell high for the grade imho.

[Scocs]

Is it just me, or does anyone else think that Rube Marquard looks like Michael Palin (from Monty Python's Flying Circus)?

[smotan_02]

Thank you to everyone's replies. Since I live close to PSA I send it in to avoid concern when selling.

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[garymc]

I dream of owning one of these and putting it my Yankee type collection.About 25yrs ago I passed on one for $125.00....thought it was too much and I only had about 90.........