Bogus Bronko's on ebay

[jefferyepayne]

I like how the baseball community on here watches out for reprints, card doctoring, etc. in ebay auctions and notifies people. We should do the same here on the football forum as some of the vintage cards are very pricey!

These two current Bronko Chicles are reprints so avoid them.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1935-Nationa...item3cecb8c9c3

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1935-Nationa...item3f41402fc8

I've left a "question" for the seller to let them know ... in case they don't already. I recommend others do the same. If these aren't taken down in the next 24 hours, I'm going to report them to ebay as fakes/reprints.

jeff

[jb67]

Jeff how do you spot a reprint versus the real thing? I do not see reprint on the back unless I overlooked it. Great thread. Thanks.

[jefferyepayne]

The only way to tell the difference between a real Chicle and the reprint set (with the naked eye anyway) is that real Chicles have blue lettering on the back. The reprint set has green lettering on the back. Real Chicles never have green lettering.

Of course there might be lots of other fakes / reprints out there so just because a Chicle has blue lettering doesn't mean it's legit!

jeff

[TanksAndSpartans]

Thanks Jeff. I posted on the PSA board - my only reasoning was there is just a lot more discussion of that kind of thing over there. I feel bad now - thanks for bringing it over here.http://forums.collectors.com/message...hreadid=931710

[jefferyepayne]

Originally Posted by DezHood

Thanks Jeff. I posted on the PSA board - my only reasoning was there is just a lot more discussion of that kind of thing over there. I feel bad now - thanks for bringing it over here.http://forums.collectors.com/message...hreadid=931710

Thanks for linking this, John. I hadn't seen that as I don't participate in the Communist Universe (CU) board. Not into censorship.

jeff

[powderfinger]

Seller also had a 1957 Topps Bill Russell card that ended on November 12. He received positive feedback from "the buyer" but when you click on that transaction, eBay shows that the item had been listted at $600 and had been relisted. The photos that accompanied the initial listing showed close-ups of the four corners and the full back of the card. No front photos. The card was, in fact, relisted, for $675 with only front and back photos and is currently active. So many red flags here, not to mentiononly 11 feedbacks, the second of which declares him the best eBay seller ever.

eBay has become a snakepit for buying vintage cards. Between sellers like this selling reprints as originals and others manipulating final bid prices, I'm glad I only have four cards to go to complete my 1935 Chicle football set.

Unfortunately, this is our problem to deal with as eBay doesn't seem to care to do anything. I'm a teacher, and once we send a kid to administrators "too many times" we're told the kid is "your problem." Is that analogy on the mark?

[TanksAndSpartans]

Originally Posted by jefferyepayne

Thanks for linking this, John. I hadn't seen that as I don't participate in the Communist Universe (CU) board. Not into censorship.

LOL - yeah I had one deleted, but I can't for the life of me remember what I was questioning. It's a different kind of board, anything I put serious research into I post here. Over there posts are only on first page for a few hours.

Originally Posted by jefferyepayne

Yes. The reality is fleaBay doesn't seem to care about any of this. As long as they get their cut, they are happy.

What's needed is a new, fresh auction site with a more caring owner. The problem is that building such a thing and attract enough bidders to convince dealers / consigners to put their items on it is a very daunting and expensive task. I know there are plenty of small, new auction houses that have popped up and that is a great thing but I'm talking about something more like ebay here in which individual sellers can list their wares.

jeff

I totally agree, but here is a problem - say someone perfectly legitimate really has a relative pass away (I know this is a common B.S. scammers use, but it does happen.) - they want to sell some cards, but don't know about our hobby - hopefully they do some research to get an idea of the value, but what's the first place to sell that will come to mind?