Periodical "Cuts"

[mrmopar]

Would you consider this a "card"? For now I will call this a 1974 Baseball-For-Fans Pete Rose NNO. It is about 2" x 1 1/2" in size. Black and white magazine print/paper.

I found this today while looking through some stuff I had boxed up. This comes from a small pocket guide called "1974 Pitcher Performance Handbook". It was one of a series of similar guides published in LA by Baseball-For-Fans Publications.

I have a few of these guides and via a quick browse, didn't see any other dotted line photos with these guides. This may be the only one of it's kind in these publications. Of course, in the card world, that dotted line often signifies "cut me out and save me".

The back is regular text, so it does not have a traditional card appearance. I'm sure any hard core Rose fan would like it, but what about the rest of the collectors out there. I know if there was a Garvey, I'd be wanting one.

[HRBAKER]

Not a card to me like a comic cut out of the Sunday paper isn't a comic book.

[Section103]

The "what is" or "what isnt" a card has so many iterations. Intellectually, no I dont think its a "card". As a collector (if I collected Pete), I would collect it.

[swarmee]

When you say the back is "regular text," do you mean it's part of a large article on the back of the page? Or is the regular text actually formatted to the same dimensions of the rectangle, so that if it was cut out, it would be completely contained?

If the back page is not formatted to match up with the Pete Rose card, I would say this is not a card, and really wasn't meant to be one. Just a style change to the picture outline to be dashed instead of lined.

If the information on the back of the card is laid out and discusses something about Pete Rose's career, then I would say it was intended to be a card. Is there a copyright line or year number or "card number"/identifier on the back?

I wouldn't collect it, but that doesn't mean some other die-hard wouldn't.

[vthobby]

Originally Posted by Section103

The "what is" or "what isnt" a card has so many iterations. Intellectually, no I dont think its a "card". As a collector (if I collected Pete), I would collect it.

I also do not think it is a card however it is a very cool oddity that any Pete Rose fan would want. I would suggest not cutting them as they can always be cut but can never be put back uncut if you know what I mean.

In the 1970s and 1980s I made a nice little side biz out of finding odd collectible cut outs like this that most folks threw away or did not care for.

I can assure you there is a home for items like this.

Thanks for showing it.

Peace, Mike

[mrmopar]

By regular text, I meant that it is not aligned/formatted to match the front and whatever was printed on the back would be clipped if you cut it out.

It seems like most of the newspaper cuts I have seen don't have a real back to them, but rather whatever was printed on the opposite page is what you got. The text almost leads you to believe that this was meant to be clipped out. it would have been cool to find a couple others in the other guides I have.

Originally Posted by swarmee

When you say the back is "regular text," do you mean it's part of a large article on the back of the page? Or is the regular text actually formatted to the same dimensions of the rectangle, so that if it was cut out, it would be completely contained?

If the back page is not formatted to match up with the Pete Rose card, I would say this is not a card, and really wasn't meant to be one. Just a style change to the picture outline to be dashed instead of lined.

If the information on the back of the card is laid out and discusses something about Pete Rose's career, then I would say it was intended to be a card. Is there a copyright line or year number or "card number"/identifier on the back?

I wouldn't collect it, but that doesn't mean some other die-hard wouldn't.

Here are a few other sample items that I have. Some were definitely meant to be cut out and others are questionable.

[Exhibitman]

Newspaper and periodical based cutout cards have a tradition going back at least to the 1930s.

1936 Detroit Times Babe Ruth:



1936 Chicago American Joe DiMaggio 'rookie':



1949 Philadelphia Bulletin Richie Ashburn 'rookie':



Dell Comics Al Rosen:



1960 Los Angeles Examiner Koufax and Snider:



To each his own, of course, but when clearly intended to be cut as a card, I personally consider them to be cards. There is definitely a market for them, just as there is for strip cards.

There is also a market for vintage cuts from newspapers and other periodicals apart from the card debate. Usually for player specialists. I have a collection of clipped photos of my cousin, including this cartoon:

[TAVG]

only thing I have that comes close to that is a 1993 Frank Thomas newspaper photo in color. it was on the inside of a binder that was included in a collection of cards i bought a while back.

[DaClyde]

I just put up a new post about the 1981 San Diego Union "Meet the Padres" set after someone mentioned it on FCB:

1981 San Diego Union - Meet the Padres

I'd also done a rather sloppy post a few years ago about newspaper "cards" in general and tried to list as many sets for which I could location information:

Baseball "cards" in Newspapers

I still update the post when I find new information.

I suspect the "Sports Stamps" from 1936 only ran in Hearst owned newspapers, but I don't have access to an archive of any of them for 1936 to work on a checklist. I'm not sure if the player selection was regional, or if the same stamps ran in all the newspapers that carried them.

[mrmopar]

Great stuff Jason. There are 85 and 86 Padres sets too, I see now, after missing them on ebay during my vacation!!

[Mark70Z]

Originally Posted by mrmopar

Would you consider this a "card"? For now I will call this a 1974 Baseball-For-Fans Pete Rose NNO. It is about 2" x 1 1/2" in size. Black and white magazine print/paper.

No; I would not consider this a card. Again, like others said, just because it's not a card doesn't mean it's not collectible. If it was a Brooks Robinson cutout I'd want it. Also, as a kid (and as an adult...don't tell anyone) I like cutting out the pictures in the newspaper that pictures Oriole players.

I know there are several O's items that are meant to be cut out, Dayton Daily News, Orioles Scrapbook, etc., but personally don't think these are cards either.

[ALR-bishop]

The SCD Standard Catalog lists Topps items made from paper, cloth and metal. Some were inserts and some marketed on their own. They are not cardboard or cards in the traditional sense, but some are highly valued in the hobby

[steve B]

Depending on how you look at it, another newspaper set could be one related to the 1983 Boston Herald Red Sox Stamps. The paper printed pictures of that weeks stamps and they could be cut out like many of the other newspaper cards.

I worked in a convenience store, and cut out a bunch of them from the unsold papers which were headed to recycling anyway. I've never seen them offered that way, probably from a lack of interest by pretty much everyone.

Steve B

From 2004 a 9 card sheet and I know it should belong in 1980 to present