Doug Allen, post-indictment, still stealing -- from the Detroit Public Library!

[calvindog]

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/i-...icle-1.2151144

[GoldenAge50s]

His sentence may have just gotten longer!

[packs]

Does that mean he consigned items while shill bidding on his own auctions?

[JeremyW]

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...9921&highlight

I wonder if this thread has anything to do with the missing Philadelphia photo?

[drcy]

One normally sends items to a consignment auction house in anticipation that they will sell them. Don't know why else you'd give them your stuff. Sounds more like a mixup/miscommunication than a high crime.

[packs]

Oh wait I see it says he sent checks to the library. That would support your post.

What a POS.

And I really hope that folks in the hobby don't convienently forget what he did 12 years from now when he's out of prison.

[bdecsports]

The photos from the Detroit library were consigned through Harwell's attorney, prior to the City of Detroit going bankrupt. The Baltimore photo was sold at their National auction prior to their bankruptcy, I don't recall the Philadelphia photo, but the other photos were included in their auction after the national, which included all of the T200 Fatima premiums, but they were all pulled post bankruptcy.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by NewEnglandBaseBallist

And I really hope that folks in the hobby don't convienently forget what he did 12 years from now when he's out of prison.

LOL If he had a item for sale cheap people would line up today to buy it.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bnorth

LOL If he had a item for sale cheap people would line up today to buy it.

If ISIS had good material they could pull off a successful auction.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

If ISIS had good material they could pull off a successful auction.

Sad but true...if ISIS/ISIL had a Miller I needed for my run...I'd consider bidding!!!!!!

[D.P.Johnson]

Before you know it he'll be working with the FEDS as a "shilling" expert and everyone will think he's the best thing since sliced bread...

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by D.P.Johnson

Before you know it he'll be working with the FEDS as a "shilling" expert and everyone will think he's the best thing since sliced bread...

kinda like peter nice!

[D.P.Johnson]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

kinda like peter nice!

Yep. In this day and age it seems all anyone needs to do is say, "I'm sorry. I'm now a reformed __________(Fill in the blank: shiller, scammer, forger)" and all is forgiven...

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by D.P.Johnson

Yep. In this day and age it seems all anyone needs to do is say, "I'm sorry. I'm now a reformed __________(Fill in the blank: shiller, scammer, forger)" and all is forgiven...

well it's better than continuing to lie even after being found guilty I suppose?

[HRBAKER]

Libraries seem to form a great source of material for the hobby.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by D.P.Johnson

Yep. In this day and age it seems all anyone needs to do is say, "I'm sorry. I'm now a reformed __________(Fill in the blank: shiller, scammer, forger)" and all is forgiven...

Are you knocking your hobby friends for being forgiving, or criminals for reforming?

[slidekellyslide]

As long as they are still investigating can they go back to that "gypsy" incident at Lionel Carter's home?

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by D.P.Johnson

Before you know it he'll be working with the FEDS as a "shilling" expert and everyone will think he's the best thing since sliced bread...

He already tried working for the feds but obstructed justice by tipping off that other paragon of virtue/intelligence John Rogers about an impending search of his home.

[wonkaticket]

Originally Posted by JeremyW

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...9921&highlight

I wonder if this thread has anything to do with the missing Philadelphia photo?

No that isn't the photo in question. Not gonna lie I did do a double take today when I read the article Jeff posted and made a few phone calls just to be sure.

The photo in that thread was won by me and came from the collection of the late Tony Carafeil a legitimate collector/consignor.

Cheers,

John

[JeremyW]

John- That's good to hear. I apologize, didn't mean to call your photo into question. I jumped to a conclusion.

[mets41]

allen's not sorry about what he did--he's sorry he got caught.

[wonkaticket]

Jeremy no worries no need to apologize I thought the same thing when I saw the article...uh oh did I buy the missing photo.

[Kenny Cole]

Unfortunate that there is even an article to be discussed. At this point he just needs to go away and pay his penance. Hard to feel sorry for a guy who the available facts indicate that he'd screw you, even if you were his "friend," if that kicked the price up. That's a pretty sorry guy.

[ElCabron]

Kenny, are you implying that Doug is not my friend?

-Ryan

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by ElCabron

Kenny, are you implying that Doug is not my friend?

-Ryan

He's just your hobby-friend, Ryan. Sorry.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

As long as they are still investigating can they go back to that "gypsy" incident at Lionel Carter's home?

You mean you don't take the explanation we were given at face value?

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

You mean you don't take the explanation we were given at face value?

I wish I could find that DVD Mastro sent with the catalog.

[packs]

What was the gypsy incident?

[Kenny Cole]

Ryan, lol in my estimation he probably isn't your friend. On the other hand, I am your friend. Sell your friend some of the cards you own that I want

[Leon]

Originally Posted by calvindog

He's just your hobby-friend, Ryan. Sorry.

Yes but "hobby friend" only goes so far too....

[CW]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

I wish I could find that DVD Mastro sent with the catalog.

It was posted last year in a revival of this old thread started by you years ago. Here's the link to the vid...

Originally Posted by ErikV

The video was uploaded to my gmail drive. It should be viewable
using the following link:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2_...it?usp=sharing

ErikV

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by CW

It was posted last year in a revival of this old thread started by you years ago. Here's the link to the vid...

Thanks for the link.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by packs

What was the gypsy incident?

According to Doug, Lionel Carter's collection was stolen from his home in broad daylight by gypsies, and eventually -- just as Doug had predicted, with remarkable prescience -- was returned completely intact ("dropped off on his doorstep" or something to that effect) and then shortly thereafter consigned to Mastro because Carter was so terrorized by the incident.

Cliffnotes version anyhow.