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Old 10-21-2014, 05:21 PM
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I just received my first submission from SGC, and one of my T206 and one 1915 Cracker Jack were not seated in the proper location centrally. I was able to manipulate them back into place, but the T206 in particular does not seem very secure in it's position. Is thus typical for SGC?

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Old 10-21-2014, 05:27 PM
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I've had cards move out of place before in SGC holders also.
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I just received my first submission from SGC, and one of my T206 and one 1915 Cracker Jack were not seated in the proper location centrally. I was able to manipulate them back into place, but the T206 in particular does not seem very secure in it's position. Is thus typical for SGC?

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Old 10-21-2014, 05:48 PM
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Due to the ongoing problem of poorly seated cards and cabinets, I've switched to PSA. I want my cards safe and secure above all else. I hope at some point SGC acknowledges and fixes the problem as I do prefer their service and aesthetics.
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Old 10-21-2014, 05:53 PM
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I have had it happen several times and I don't buy that many SGC cards. But that said no damage ever was done.
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I have more than several Sgc t206's that are not seated properly. In some instances the insert section is clearly smaller than the cards and they cannot be urged in place. On others the cards have simply slipped behind the insert because the insert isn't thick enough to be seated tightly enough against the two pieces of the plastic slab. In my opinion they suck and its a major problem. I try to stay with psa whenever possible.

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Thanks for the responses. Not sure what I'll do in the future, as I prefer how SGC grades based on my limited experience.
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You would think with all the fuss about the flip, attention could be paid to an issue that really matters? Or maybe it's just inherent in the use of a gasket type insert?
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It has happened, but very infrequently. What drives me nuts even more is my floating card inside a PSA holder.
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I have had it happen several times and I don't buy that many SGC cards. But that said no damage ever was done.
I think the issue did damage to 1 of my cards. Caused some chipping on the back of a high grade T206 common I purchased a couple months ago.

Does anyone know if they are doing anything to address this issue? I got this 1 in the mail a couple weeks ago. It is the 4th time this year I received a floating card in the mail. If I send it back to SGC will they reholder it and will this fix the problem?

I like graded cards because I feel it is the best way to protect them from damage. This isn't working for me.
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Won these T4s this past spring. This is how they arrived out of the box.


Returned them to the AH who sent them to SGC for reholdering. Three months later I got them back. This time they were in a plastic sleeve. One stayed put, the other was still trying to escape.

If I were SGC I would be embarrassed.

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I strongly prefer SGC as a grading service because their slabs are easies to break the cards out of.
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Shown before, SGC fixed them at the National.

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The slab in my opinion the weakest part of SGC.

The slippage seems to occur with the thinner prewar cards. If a thicker gasket is not possible then maybe they could add plastic bumpers like PSA.

I'd love to see them improve the slab by making them smaller and more tamper resistant.

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SGC's biggest problem with their gaskets indeed seem to be for the smaller tobacco cards. I found this highly ironic because T206's are SGC's bread and butter and yet the gasket for those cards hardly ever fit properly. I understand T206s have different sizes, but that shouldn't be a reason SGC can't make a gasket that fits all T206s. PSA has done it, SGC needs to figure out a solution. My suggestion would to make the gasket plastic and not hand cut cardboard. Of course to stick with the lovely black gasket, I'd make the plastic black to still standout from PSA.
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SGC's biggest problem with their gaskets indeed seem to be for the smaller tobacco cards. I found this highly ironic because T206's are SGC's bread and butter and yet the gasket for those cards hardly ever fit properly. I understand T206s have different sizes, but that shouldn't be a reason SGC can't make a gasket that fits all T206s. PSA has done it, SGC needs to figure out a solution. My suggestion would to make the gasket plastic and not hand cut cardboard. Of course to stick with the lovely black gasket, I'd make the plastic black to still standout from PSA.
Gaskets for oversized cards are as bad, if not worse, than the standard sized holder for tobacco cards; there are just fewer cards in these holders in terms of volume.


Essentially all of SGC's gaskets seem to be a problem from what I have seen.
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My suggestion would to make the gasket plastic and not hand cut cardboard. Of course to stick with the lovely black gasket, I'd make the plastic black to still standout from PSA.
I believe they are plastic. At least the ones I have cracked out were thin and flimsy plastic. This gasket problem is not just an inconvenience or aesthetic issue. 2 out of the 3 T206's in SGC slabs I received recently were out of place and corners were damaged as a result. THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT RISK OF DAMAGE TO CARDS BECAUSE OF THIS PROBLEM.
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SGC's biggest problem with their gaskets indeed seem to be for the smaller tobacco cards. I found this highly ironic because T206's are SGC's bread and butter and yet the gasket for those cards hardly ever fit properly. I understand T206s have different sizes, but that shouldn't be a reason SGC can't make a gasket that fits all T206s. PSA has done it, SGC needs to figure out a solution. My suggestion would to make the gasket plastic and not hand cut cardboard. Of course to stick with the lovely black gasket, I'd make the plastic black to still standout from PSA.
Just a thicker paper stock would make a world of difference. If the gasket is thicker than the card, the card can't escape it!
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