Why this high of a price???

[yanks12025]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RICKY-WRIGHT...p2047675.l2557

[mschwade]

Originally Posted by yanks12025

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RICKY-WRIGHT...p2047675.l2557

People battling that needed it to complete their 1987 Topps set.. This auction said he refused to sign 1987 Topps cards since they were issued.

[mschwade]

Originally Posted by mschwade

People battling that needed it to complete their 1987 Topps set.. This auction said he refused to sign 1987 Topps cards since they were issued.

Read this thread too.. Guy said he has searched eBay for 10 years for a Ricky Wright.

[earlywynnfan]

So what's Wright's deal? Why is he so tough??

Ken

[yanks12025]

I found this in another thread, that said keith O won it. someone also wonders whether maybe someone knew he was winning it and always puts a high snipe so they maybe just put a high bid to run him up.

But I dont understand why place a super high snipe if you really dont want to spend that much.


http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/b...sing-here.html

[dgo71]

Wright has notoriously refused to sign that card since it was issued. I believe he was waiting for an opportunity to do something for charity (a la Doug Flynn and the 86T), but then it just became the card he was never going to sign. He turned down an offer from Dave Cameron for a large sum (I heard five figures) to sign only a handful of the cards, so it appears he clearly doesn't have an interest in signing it. Oddly, he is not a hard autograph to find on his other cards.

I am 99.9% sure this one was fake. To see it go for that much money turns my stomach. I am familiar with this seller and he always seems to have a lot of "rare" signed cards and always has a story about how it was obtained through a friend of a friend. The Al Pulido he has up right now is undoubtedly fake. I was in possession of 20+ copies of Pulido's 87T from a trusted trade partner who frequently travels to Mexico for ballgames. Every one was consistent, and none of them looked like the one this seller has for sale. This guy sells close fakes, he's obviously aware of what the legit auto looks like, but his execution is thankfully lacking. Several of the 87T look off to me, including very common signers like Bobby Witt and Geno Petralli. If those two are bad then there's very little to make me think the Wright, easily one of the hardest cards issued in the last 35 years to find signed, is real.

[dgo71]

Originally Posted by mschwade

Read this thread too.. Guy said he has searched eBay for 10 years for a Ricky Wright.

Just in case anyone here is working on the 87T set and read the above link, I thought I'd offer my opinion based on my own experience with these guys.

Some of the problems you will run into with this set:

Dick Howser- Most people insert a cut auto on the card and consider the project done.
Alan Wiggins- HIV victim and even when he was out of baseball he was in out or rehab.
Damaso Garcia- Stroke and cant sign anymore
Donnie Moore- Suicide
Juan Espino- Never made it back to the states
Roberto Clemente- Most have Roberto Clemente Jr sign the card
Ricky Wright refused to sign the card since it was issued

This is mostly correct. Howser is very tough, and Wright nearly impossible. Wiggins (whose card is actually in the traded set) played until 1989 and died two years later. He was in general a tough graph though, and his drug problems made him impossible to track down after his career ended.

I can't speak to Clemente Jr. as I've never seen him or tried him TTM, but I can't imagine he's terribly hard.

Donnie Moore played into the 1989 season (he was with KC's AAA team in Omaha in early '89) before passing away. Signed examples of this card are hard to find, but not in the extremely rare category. Heck, I actually have an IP one myself.

Espino did play in the U.S. for a couple more seasons after this card came out. He played for the Richmond Braves and Columbus Clippers and was a very willing signer, though he always signed his cards upside down for some reason. Again, I have several IP examples of Espino on this card.

Garcia also played another three seasons and was a willing signer. He's tough to get NOW because of his health issues, but this card is not terribly tough to find signed from his playing days.

Al Pulido is a toughie not mentioned above, because he played only a short time (all in the minor leagues) after this card was issued and then retired to Mexico where he was basically inaccessible to collectors in the States.

[Scott Garner]

C'mon! I'm sorry, but 1987 Topps has to be the ugliest, over produced set ever created, to begin with...
Why would you even want to collect that set, much less pay over $5K for the signature of some no-name, worthless fool?

No doubt that this collector will own that card forever...

[danc]

That is a crazy price. I have seen a few and they sold for $300-400. I wonder if this item will be up again as perhaps someone was playing games. We'll see.

There are challenges when trying to accumulate complete signed sets as there are always challenging subjects who don't sign. Some of the biggest scrubs are often the most difficult to obtain. I have shared want lists from other collectors and the same names are on every list.

I know I will never be able to complete my 1982 Fleer set because like everyone else trying to complete it, Garvey refuses to sign that card, but he will sign everything else. Oh well.

DanC

[johnmh71]

Originally Posted by Scott Garner

C'mon! I'm sorry, but 1987 Topps has to be the ugliest, over produced set ever created, to begin with...
Why would you even want to collect that set, much less pay over $5K for the signature of some no-name, worthless fool?

No doubt that this collector will own that card forever...

I agree. I would rather spend my money on a rare HOF auto of someone who was somebody. I would think the market for it would be much better over time.

[RichardSimon]

And you have to think a seller making this statement in his ad is questionable:
" I'am not a pro dealer so there is no COA."

[danc]

I talked to one of the underbidders who informed me that the signature was legit, and the buyer is a well known collector with more than enough capital as to justify filling in a hole in his collection.

DanC