Chris Morales Suing Steve Cyrkin

[thetruthisoutthere]

Chris Morales is suing Steve Cyrkin of Autograph Magazine. Below is the link to Steve's article. I hope this lawsuit reaches a National Level Of Attention. Morales deserves all of the attention he seems to desire.

http://live.autographmagazine.com/pr...g_com_blogpost

[Jaybird]

you'd think he'd be smart enough to keep his mouth shut. THis is definitely a good thing. Though it isn't fun to be sued, the truth comes out in a lawsuit and his actions will get more light shed on them.

[Mr. Zipper]

The truth is the ultimate defense, however, it's sad and disappointing that it will probably cost Steve thousands of dollars he'll never recover.

Things like this certainly cause a chilling effect on speaking out... and I'm sure that is the intended effect.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by Mr. Zipper

The truth is the ultimate defense, however, it's sad and disappointing that it will probably cost Steve thousands of dollars he'll never recover.

Things like this certainly cause a chilling effect on speaking out... and I'm sure that is the intended effect.

It makes me want to speak out even more!!!

That's why terrorism is so effective. It's the "terror" that makes people stop, think and become scared and worried.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

It makes me want to speak out even more!!!

That's why terrorism is so effective. It's the "terror" that makes people stop, think and become scared and worried.

I wouldn't be worried in the least. He can sue all day long. The fact is, MORAL ASS is a complete boob, joke and boil on the MORAL ASS of society. I hope the scum sucking, low lying, bottom feeder gets what's coming to him for perpetrating fraud so long on this hobby.

[sports-rings]

can you image Morales during the discovery phase where lawyers get to ask him questions under oath?

As Barry Bonds found out, not a good idea to lie under oath!

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by sports-rings

can you image Morales during the discovery phase where lawyers get to ask him questions under oath?

As Barry Bonds found out, not a good idea to lie under oath!

Go to the below link:

http://live.autographmagazine.com/pr...g_com_blogpost

[mr2686]

That's too funny. I guess it's going to take judges and lawyers in the hobby to attack the credibility of these "authenticators" before we can get them out of the business. Once they're gone, we can get at the dealers.

[danc]

My favorite part of the testimony is when he admits to using Mark Allen Baker's "Baseball Hall Of Fame Handbook" (or named something like that), even though that book is full of fraudulent examples. Basically ALL of the pre-1900 examples, as if Dan Brouthers and Tim Keefe signed like infants.

So the forger provides him with "those famous signed cuts" that used THAT BOOK to create the examples and he matches it up and it's a go for a certificate? I have authentic exemplars of both, but a man whose job it is to know signatures doesn't? So anyone who has this book can be an authenticator?

DanC

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by danc

My favorite part of the testimony is when he admits to using Mark Allen Baker's "Baseball Hall Of Fame Handbook" (or named something like that), even though that book is full of fraudulent examples. Basically ALL of the pre-1900 examples, as if Dan Brouthers and Tim Keefe signed like infants.

So the forger provides him with "those famous signed cuts" that used THAT BOOK to create the examples and he matches it up and it's a go for a certificate? I have authentic exemplars of both, but a man whose job it is to know signatures doesn't? So anyone who has this book can be an authenticator?

DanC

Well written, Dan. How about the part when he (Morales) was asked by the judge "Did you perform an ink analysis?" and he (Morales) replies "I looked at the ink." Is that how a real "forensic examiner" replies to a question like that!!!??? And some of his exemplars where photographs he took at the Smithsonian!!!??? What the heck....!!!

[drc]

Reading requires looking at the ink.

[Ringking]

It's about time somebody sued that trash of a blog site. All they do is bash people and items with nothing to back it up.

2 people are being sued from that blog, with more to come from what I have heard.

[jeffects]

So Morales is a fraud, No kidding! Try checking out some of the laughable claims and credentials of a few of JSA's "experts". Give me a break!

Jeff Clark

[slidekellyslide]

All posts in this thread should have their name on them...if they are not edited to put a name on they will be deleted.

Thanks

[Mr. Zipper]

Originally Posted by Ringking

It's about time somebody sued that trash of a blog site. All they do is bash people and items with nothing to back it up.

2 people are being sued from that blog, with more to come from what I have heard.

So you are saying Cyrkin has no reason to criticize Morales? "Nothing to back it up"?

Who are you?


- Steve Zarelli

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Mr. Zipper

So you are saying Cyrkin has no reason to criticize Morales? "Nothing to back it up"?

Who are you?


- Steve Zarelli

I think Cori has left our forum because I posted his name but that's the way it is.......



Name: Ringking


My name, Cori Broswavic

champringking@yahoo.com

Phone number 317-xxx-xxxx
__________________

[Ringking]

Originally Posted by Leon

I think Cori has left our forum because I posted his name but that's the way it is.......



Name: Ringking


My name, Cori Broswavic

champringking@yahoo.com

Phone number 317-xxx-xxxx
__________________

still here leon... And Roger and Cyrkin are still being sued, and losing the court battle.

Ask them about it.

[Cfern023]

Originally Posted by Ringking

still here leon... And Roger and Cyrkin are still being sued, and losing the court battle.

Ask them about it.

Leaving and coming back after more then a year does not qualify as still here.

It's qualifies as you running and then figuring the coast is clear.

Either way, your a fool. Better to let sleeping dogs lie.

Why come back after 19 months just to stir stuff up again.

What a fool.

Chris F.

[Sean1125]

Wow.

[Big Dave]

.....and this lawsuit is STILL...going on after all this time. Seems like the only people that are going to win are the......lawyers!

As usual..

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by Ringking

still here leon... And Roger and Cyrkin are still being sued, and losing the court battle.

Ask them about it.

What makes you say they are losing?

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

What makes you say they are losing?

He'll let you know in 2014.

[shelly]

Ring King I will bet you 2000 dollars that they don't loose the case. I will put the money up with Leon.

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

He'll let you know in 2014.

He seems to be the Net54 equivalent of Haley's Comet, eh?

[Cfern023]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

He seems to be the Net54 equivalent of Haley's Comet, eh?

No kidding.

[Mr. Zipper]

Originally Posted by shelly

Ring King I will bet you 2000 dollars that they don't loose the case. I will put the money up with Leon.

Well, if Cori Broswavic (Raiderman or CHEFRAIDER) won the bet, the winnings would be garnished by Roger Epperson. For those who do not know, Roger Epperson sucessfully sued Cori Broswavic (aka aka Chefraider, Cori Raiderman and other names) for a $200,000 judgment ($100,000 actual and $100,000 punitive damages).

You can read the details here:
http://live.autographmagazine.com/pr...person-vs-cori

[shelly]

Well I have Rodger hold my money instead. Leon can hold the other guys.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by shelly

Well I have Rodger hold my money instead. Leon can hold the other guys.

quite honestly I don't want to hold anyone's money. I just want everyone to have their names in their posts when they need to be. I don't ask for much .

[Ringking]

Originally Posted by shelly

Ring King I will bet you 2000 dollars that they don't loose the case. I will put the money up with Leon.

I'll gladly take your money.

According to the court documents, they asked for a court mediation, yet are still stalling when it comes to that. (something that was NEVER offered to me, yet according to texas law and what they have said, it's mandated by the courts in civil suits in texas. If so, why was I never offered it??? Why are they begging for it?)

A court of law works differently then a blog, and I think they and you will find that out. Just because you say something does not make it a fact.

"A lie undiscovered becomes the truth" for some....
And my personal favorite "it's not a lie, if you believe it"


Anybody that reads what is going on in this case can see everything points to Chris getting a victory.

[Ringking]

Originally Posted by Mr. Zipper

Well, if Cori Broswavic (Raiderman or CHEFRAIDER) won the bet, the winnings would be garnished by Roger Epperson. For those who do not know, Roger Epperson sucessfully sued Cori Broswavic (aka aka Chefraider, Cori Raiderman and other names) for a $200,000 judgment ($100,000 actual and $100,000 punitive damages).

You can read the details here:
http://live.autographmagazine.com/pr...person-vs-cori

Yes, he won a TEXAS judgement, (by default as I could not afford to defend the case) I live in INDIANA. False documents were issued in that court case to win the said judgement. There is no garnishment as the Indiana courts don't Recognize or accept the case.

[Big Dave]

A lot of people win court cases that way, and it doesn't mean the trier of facts rejected your case and you lost based on factual evidence. It just means you didn't participate for whatever reason, and the most common is the ability to fund a defense, especially one in another state. Nothing factual was settled in regard to the plaintiff or the defendant.

[Cfern023]

Originally Posted by Ringking

Yes, he won a TEXAS judgement, (by default as I could not afford to defend the case) I live in INDIANA. False documents were issued in that court case to win the said judgement. There is no garnishment as the Indiana courts don't Recognize or accept the case.

Looks like the Mayans may be right. The world is ending in 2012.

Haley's Comet has visited three times in one year.

[Sean1125]

The only thing I can add is that I bought some stuff from someone before (fake, misdescribed, etc) and would have had to fly to his home state to sue HIM... So I don't think the Texas judgement will uphold if the SELLER is in a different state (I'm no lawyer so maybe someone can correct me, this is simply what I was told when I spoke with lawyers)

I have nothing to contribute for either side of the argument and do not read the site the plaintiff mods/runs/whatever.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by Ringking

I'll gladly take your money.

According to the court documents, they asked for a court mediation, yet are still stalling when it comes to that. (something that was NEVER offered to me, yet according to texas law and what they have said, it's mandated by the courts in civil suits in texas. If so, why was I never offered it??? Why are they begging for it?)

A court of law works differently then a blog, and I think they and you will find that out. Just because you say something does not make it a fact.

"A lie undiscovered becomes the truth" for some....
And my personal favorite "it's not a lie, if you believe it"


Anybody that reads what is going on in this case can see everything points to Chris getting a victory.

CHRIS is a DICK..PERIOD!!!! and so are you

[martindl]

Originally Posted by Ringking

Yes, he won a TEXAS judgement, (by default as I could not afford to defend the case) I live in INDIANA. False documents were issued in that court case to win the said judgement. There is no garnishment as the Indiana courts don't Recognize or accept the case.

The irony of this statement amused me.

[baseballart]

What is the style of cause? Are the court documents in this case available for on-line viewing?

Thanks,

Max

[shelly]

You have said your would be glad to take my money. Who would you pick to hold the cash? Leon said no so pick out one of the lawyers on this site and lets get the money in there hands.
I also want you to explain what a win is because when Rodger beat you it was not a win.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by Sean1125

I don't think the Texas judgement will uphold if the SELLER is in a different state (I'm no lawyer so maybe someone can correct me, this is simply what I was told when I spoke with lawyers)

Um, actually, it will. Under the Full Faith and Credit clause of the U.S. Constitution states are required to honor the civil money judgments of other state courts:

"A final judgment in one State, if rendered by a court with adjudicatory authority over the subject matter and persons governed by the judgment, qualifies for recognition throughout the land." Baker v. General Motors 522 U.S. 222

The most likely reasons for nonenforcement are logistics and expense. The TX creditor would have to hire counsel in IN and convert the TX judgment into an IN judgment then enforce it there.

The only way to try to avoid the judgment is to attack it on jurisdictional grounds.

[RichardSimon]

Obviously Ringking, despite declaring himself as royalty, cannot come up with any money.
Even in the light of that, I will take a shot and take some of that betting action too if we can come up with someone to hold the dough.
$500 King??
If you got $2500 King then you can win $2500,,, here is your chance.