Wow! What a Steiner deal. $2500 for a handshake, autograph and of course a ticket

[RichardSimon]

Just got this e mail offer:

Steiner Sports
VIP Meet and Greet with Derek Jeter and a 100-Level Game Ticket ($2,500); VIP Mariano Rivera Meet and Greet and a 100-Level Game Ticket ($2,000); Signed Derek Jeter Photograph ($290); or Mariano Rivera's Record-Breaking 602 Baseball ($265)
Why settle for a close-up on the Jumbotron when you can shake your idol's hand?

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Now I got to go out and sell my Christy Mathewson so I can meet and greet with Derek.
Wow! What a deal. Can I meet and greet both? Who the hell needs to buy food or pay the rent when Derek, Mariano and Brandon need more dough. .

[David Atkatz]

Anyone still think Derek's not a greedy bastard?

[travrosty]

The person who bought the Mint 10 Ozzie Smith RC for $20,000 must be kicking himself now - he could have met Derek Jeter 8 times!

I can see Babe Ruth standing behind a barricade at a stadium now.

DAD- (yelling to Ruth) "Hey Babe, do you have a second for a picture and to sign a ball for my kid? He's a big fan!"

Ruth - (with a look of disgust on his face) "That'll be 50 bucks Jack! Now amscray!"

[johnmh71]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

Anyone still think Derek's not a greedy bastard?

How many players aren't these days?

[doug.goodman]

Does that include authentication?

[packs]

I wish more people on the Yankees were like Curtis Granderson. That guy signs ALL day and is happy to do it. While he was still on Detroit he even thanked everyone at spring training who waited for him. I remember over the summer he even let himself be an auction item for a meet and greet so that the guy who gave Derek back his ball could pay off some of his loans. Didn't see Derek on the list. Hmm....

[Mr. Zipper]

Jorge Posada is doing a private signing with Steiner tomorrow. I called to get a quote for a 16x20 flat mail in item

$500.

[RichardSimon]

The business of America is business,,, but this is greed run rampant and taking advantage of the obsession of the collector.
They should be ashamed of themselves.

[Bilko G]

Sad thing is, is there will be people lining up to pay $2500 for a hand shake, autograph and game ticket


Is the 100 level at least a good ticket in Yankee Stadium??

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by Bilko G

Sad thing is, is there will be people lining up to pay $2500 for a hand shake, autograph and game ticket


Is the 100 level at least a good ticket in Yankee Stadium??

This Met fan has no idea and never will .

[barrysloate]

A better question isn't why the players want so much money, but why is there a single fan who would be willing to spend $2000 to greet a player? It's not like it's going to be the beginning of a long friendship. Most players couldn't give a crap about the people who idolize them. So what satisfaction does a fan get in this kind of meeting? That is something that has escaped me as long as I have been in this hobby.... but that's me.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

The business of America is business,,, but this is greed run rampant and taking advantage of the obsession of the collector.
They should be ashamed of themselves.

Richard, isn't it partly the fault of adult collectors who resell signed items? Are they taking advantage of us, or vice versa? Or is it symbiotic?

Back when pro players signed happily for free, they were signing to real fans who treasured the item and the moment. I have about ten items that I've had personally signed since I was a kid - none will ever be for sale.

It's quite different now.

[Exhibitman]

I was able to participate in one such event several years back with Don Newcomble but that was a charity fundraiser and we got to spend several hours with Newk at Dodgers Stadium, got lunch at the stadium club, and got to see the game from the executive level. But to hand a guy who made about a quarter of a billion dollars another chunk of hard-earned money just to shake my hand and sign one autograph? As some of the residents of the surrounding area might say "fugedaboudit."

There is one simple remedy: refuse to participate. Steiner has to pay Jeter regardless, so if no one buys the 'event' then they will lose their shirts and learn not to try something like this again.

[Anthony S.]

Will he look you in the eye as he shakes your hand, or is that an extra $500?

[scooter729]

I bet a lot of the people who would participate are corporate people looking to schmooze and impress their clients by letting them meet Jeter. What's $2500 to a company trying to do a multi-million dollar deal?

Steiner probably preys on corporate minds in NYC for a chunk of their business for events like this, would be my guess...

[GrayGhost]

Thats RIDICULOUS. I'm meeting Chumlee and Big Hoss from Pawn Stars next week and its FREE! Much better deal IMO

[Mr. Zipper]

Originally Posted by scooter729

I bet a lot of the people who would participate are corporate people looking to schmooze and impress their clients by letting them meet Jeter. What's $2500 to a company trying to do a multi-million dollar deal?

Steiner probably preys on corporate minds in NYC for a chunk of their business for events like this, would be my guess...

Absolutely. Their customer base is corporate and executives who want a signed ball in their office and don't care to cruise ebay looking for deals. People to whom $500 is an average dinner out.

[baseballart]

Originally Posted by packs

I wish more people on the Yankees were like Curtis Granderson. That guy signs ALL day and is happy to do it. While he was still on Detroit he even thanked everyone at spring training who waited for him. I remember over the summer he even let himself be an auction item for a meet and greet so that the guy who gave Derek back his ball could pay off some of his loans. Didn't see Derek on the list. Hmm....

If I recall correctly, Granderson also has a keen interest in the history of baseball.

[Leon]

There would be a longer line for Jeter, and one I might even be in, if fans could be mean to him.....This is the reason I don't care for MLB or most other pro sports today. I don't mind them making a ton of money but they really should give back too....

[Wymers Auction]

I would not pay $2500 to shake hands with Ruth or Cobb even if that was possible. At the end of the day they are still just human beings that get paid extremely well to play a game that people love to play for free. No disrespect intended to Cobb or Ruth.

[thebigtrain]

I would not pay $2500 to shake hands with Ruth or Cobb even if that was possible.

Wasn't Coach's Corner auctioning tix for a Cobb handshake session like last month? I think for $1500 you could feel the ol' "Georgia Peach's" grip and even get a free stock tip from Ty no extra charge.

[travrosty]

If Granderson is a student of the history of the game, kudos to him. There are a few ballplayers that do not know who Jackie Robinson was and was he did for baseball.

A couple years ago one was asked about Robinson and couldn't tell the interviewer anything about him.

[Bilko G]

Originally Posted by anthony s.

will he look you in the eye as he shakes your hand, or is that an extra $500?

lol!!! Too funny!!!

[Bilko G]

Originally Posted by GrayGhost

Thats RIDICULOUS. I'm meeting Chumlee and Big Hoss from Pawn Stars next week and its FREE! Much better deal IMO

Chum is pretty cool. Seems like a guy that you would have a great time meeting.

"Big Hoss" seems like a total dick to me.

[T206Collector]

You guys have already made up your minds about Jeter. And you are of course free to hate modern celebrities who make millions of dollars playing a child's game.

But you should at least consider the simple fact Jeter does more charitable work than any other Major League Player today. I would be extremely surprised if he was pocketing his earnings from this meet and greet. He does most of his meet and greets for his Turn 2 Foundation.

Here is just one recent of a myriad of articles that discuss Jeter's considerable charitable efforts.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseb...ek-jeter_N.htm

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

You guys have already made up your minds about Jeter. And you are of course free to hate modern celebrities who make millions of dollars playing a child's game.

But you should at least consider the simple fact Jeter does more charitable work than any other Major League Player today. I would be extremely surprised if he was pocketing his earnings from this meet and greet. He does most of his meet and greets for his Turn 2 Foundation.

Here is just one recent of a myriad of articles that discuss Jeter's considerable charitable efforts.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseb...ek-jeter_N.htm

When an appearance is for charity don't they usually state that it is for charity in the advertising? Just asking.

[T206Collector]

The five most charitable athletes in MLB:

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ycn-10290837

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

When an appearance is for charity don't they usually state that it is for charity in the advertising? Just asking.

Steiner is making money from this, obviously. My point is that Jeter is unlikely to be pocketing his share of the $25,000 that he will raise through this.

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

Just asking.

Nice come back.

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

You guys have already made up your minds about Jeter. And you are of course free to hate modern celebrities who make millions of dollars playing a child's game.

But you should at least consider the simple fact Jeter does more charitable work than any other Major League Player today. I would be extremely surprised if he was pocketing his earnings from this meet and greet. He does most of his meet and greets for his Turn 2 Foundation.

Here is just one recent of a myriad of articles that discuss Jeter's considerable charitable efforts.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseb...ek-jeter_N.htm

+1
Full disclosure: I'm definitely not a Yankees fan, but let's give Jeter credit where credit is due for his charitable work....

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

You guys have already made up your minds about Jeter. And you are of course free to hate modern celebrities who make millions of dollars playing a child's game.

But you should at least consider the simple fact Jeter does more charitable work than any other Major League Player today. I would be extremely surprised if he was pocketing his earnings from this meet and greet. He does most of his meet and greets for his Turn 2 Foundation.

Here is just one recent of a myriad of articles that discuss Jeter's considerable charitable efforts.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseb...ek-jeter_N.htm

Ditto. Just because Jeter doesn't go around bragging about his enormous contributions to his charity (Turn2Foundation) doesn't mean he pockets every penny he earns from commercials and his Steiner Sports contract.

If you don't want to spend $2500.00 to meet and greet Jeter, then don't. Those who can afford to, and want to, pay. It's really that simple.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Scott Garner

+1
Full disclosure: I'm definitely not a Yankees fan, but let's give Jeter credit where credit is due for his charitable work....

Admittedly, from reading that article, Jeter does seem to give back to the community. Kudos to him for that. I didn't realize he was that charitable. My disdain for MLB just spilled over to him. While I consider most of them whiny babies I am sure there are many good-hearted players too.
The price of $2500 does seem like a lot of money though and makes me think of greed....sorry, that is the way I feel. Kind of makes me think of trying to take the family to a MLB game (if I even wanted to). Good luck on that expense. But I am sure Jeter's and other players gazillion dollar salaries have nothing to do with that. It's not their fault though...I would take the money if I were them too.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by Leon

There would be a longer line for Jeter, and one I might even be in, if fans could be mean to him.....This is the reason I don't care for MLB or most other pro sports today. I don't mind them making a ton of money but they really should give back too....

that is insane....I can't wait for May 30th when the Yanks come to Anaheim. I have seats over the visiting dugout and "PROMISE" to give him and ear full as we are with in spitting distance of the visiting players. I love to give them s*** when they walk back to the dugout after a strikeout. They have to walk into the dugout, right in front of us. My wife won't like it none to much as a Yankee fan, but who cares. I will will be calling him a greedy dirty stinking scum bag slob as well as a disgrace to the game for charging that kind of money for an autograph. I will try to get one and rip it up in front of him. He does sign before games, so I'll give him that much. Mariano does too at least the past 6-7 years we've had these tickets.

I hope that covers it for you guys....any other suggestions or personal messages you'd like relayed to Dickweed Jeter, I'll be happy to yell them for you for only $25.00

[Mr. Zipper]

Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

. I will try to get one and rip it up in front of him. He does sign before games, so I'll give him that much. Mariano does too at least the past 6-7 years we've had these tickets.

I hope that covers it for you guys....any other suggestions or personal messages you'd like relayed to Dickweed Jeter, I'll be happy to yell them for you for only $25.00

Jeter signs for kids and women and typically tells men to go buy one. It's great that he is so charitable. Too bad he doesn't give much of a damn about the other vast majority of fans... The schlubs who actually go to games and pay for tickets. I still recall the news conference where he had to stand next to Christian Lopez and looked like he wanted to crawl out of his own skin to get away from the kid. (Kid who caught his 3000th hit.)

Rivera on the other hand has always been generous free signer to everyone and his Steiner fees are less than half of Jeter or Posada. I sat a few rows behind Rivera in the old Tiger Stadium. The bullpen was on the field and they sat on a bench right up against the wall. Rivera fed signed balls over his shoulder and into the crowd the entire game. A class act.

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

But you should at least consider the simple fact Jeter does more charitable work than any other Major League Player today.

Source?

[JollyElm]

This is a cartoon I drew a few years ago. I find it quite pertinent to this thread...

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

Source?

Did you read either of the articles I posted above?

[CW]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

This is a cartoon I drew a few years ago. I find it quite pertinent to this thread...

Cool comic and, yes, perfect for the thread!

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

Did you read either of the articles I posted above?

Yeah--I read them both. Not much hard info in either. And neither of them claimed he does "more charitable work than any other Major League Player today."

Reading critically is quite a useful skill.

[Bilko G]

I will also mention that when athletes appear through another company that is in the business, like Steiner, the athlete usually never has any say in what the company charges the consumer for an auto or a personal appearance (meet and greet).

Usually the company will pay (negotiate) a flat fee and then the company will charge what they wish for the auto or meet and greet. Sometimes (very rarely but it happens) the athlete doesn't even know what the company is charging for an in person auto or meet/greet.

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by Bilko G

I will also mention that when athletes appear through another company that is in the business, like Steiner, the athlete usually never has any say in what the company charges the consumer for an auto or a personal appearance (meet and greet).

Usually the company will pay (negotiate) a flat fee and then the company will charge what they wish for the auto or meet and greet. Sometimes (very rarely but it happens) the athlete doesn't even know what the company is charging for an in person auto or meet/greet.

I respectfully disagree.

There is no way that the reps of anybody being paid to make an appearance would allow their client to get a flat fee that is not tied in some way to the amount being charged to the public.

As a tour accountant for touring bands, the best analogy for me would be that the cost of a concert ticket is 100% tied to the amount being paid to the band. That's not my opinion, that is a statement of fact.

Doug

[Bilko G]

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

I respectfully disagree.

There is no way that the reps of anybody being paid to make an appearance would allow their client to get a flat fee that is not tied in some way to the amount being charged to the public.

As a tour accountant for touring bands, the best analogy for me would be that the cost of a concert ticket is 100% tied to the amount being paid to the band. That's not my opinion, that is a statement of fact.

Doug

Okay, well maybe for some big celebrity athlete like Jeter this is true. I do know what i posted is FACT on certain NHL players that have appeared for signings at card shows.

[Gary Dunaier]

Originally Posted by Mr. Zipper

Jeter signs for kids and women and typically tells men to go buy one.

Not every man who wants a Jeter autograph and is willing to buy one can afford one at today's prices. And there's nothing to prevent a kid or woman from selling their free Jeter autograph to the man who was just told to go buy one.

Derek Jeter FEH.

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by Bilko G

Okay, well maybe for some big celebrity athlete like Jeter this is true. I do know what i posted is FACT on certain NHL players that have appeared for signings at card shows.

Then they (or their reps) are not very smart.

Doug

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

Yeah--I read them both. Not much hard info in either. And neither of them claimed he does "more charitable work than any other Major League Player today."

Reading critically is quite a useful skill.

Basically third-party anecdotal evidence is always subject to claims of "lack of hard info." The point, which is undisputable, is that Jeter is easily one of the most charitable, if not the most charitable, player in the game today.

If you dispute that, why don't you provide some "hard info"? You can browse 501c3 data online. Why don't you spend some of your time doing research rather than just publicly bitching about modern baseball players on an internet chat board.

Heck, I'll even take "soft info" from major news sources suggesting Jeter's charitable endeavors aren't at the top of his class.

By my count this is at least the second time you've gone out of your way to criticize the guy on a vintage memorabilia forum. You hate him like a stalker. I'm just saying.

[David Atkatz]

Sure! No problem!

You make the absurd--and totally unsubstantiated--claim that Jete's the most charitable player in the game, and I'll check the 501c3 data to see if you're right.

Kind of back-asswards, don't you think?

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

By my count this is at least the second time you've gone out of your way to criticize the guy on a vintage memorabilia forum. You hate him like a stalker. I'm just saying.

And, by my count, this is at least the second time you've come to his defense. You love him like a little girl.

I'm just sayin'.

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

Sure! No problem!

You make the absurd--and totally unsubstantiated--claim that Jete's the most charitable player in the game, and I'll check the 501c3 data to see if you're right.

Kind of back-asswards, don't you think?

Um.... I substantiated it with news stories. You weren't convinced. You wanted hard evidence. Find it yourself.

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

And, by my count, this is at least the second time you've come to his defense. You love him like a little girl.

I'm just sayin'.

Clever retort. I point out your obsession with unsolicited attacks. I come to his defense, and I'm the stalker? Makes sense.

Tell you what, you stop talking about "greedy bastard" modern players and count the number of times I ever mention a post WW2 player on this chat board after you stop. We'll call it even.

[Bilko G]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

And, by my count, this is at least the second time you've come to his defense. You love him like a little girl.

I'm just sayin'.

No Offense to T206, but i think David wins this battle with that come back. LOL!!!!