Babe Ruth Card Information

[bcookie]

i know this is the wrong forum, i placed it in the correct forum but i did not get any answers. I have a certified 1951/52 Brown & Bigelow Babe Ruth Cuban Winter League Schedule. SGC has certified it a 40.

does anyone have any information on this card? I have a picture of it in my original thread here:

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=141159

are these a new discovery?

what would they be worth?

[glchen]

I don't think these are common, but I don't think they'd be worth significantly more than the 53 B&B although there'd definitely be a premium. Ruth collectors typically look for cards within his playing days, unique poses, or within a major set (e.g, 51 Topps Connie Mac), and this card has none of those. It's still a unique card so you should be able to get something for it.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by glchen

I don't think these are common, but I don't think they'd be worth significantly more than the 53 B&B although there'd definitely be a premium. Ruth collectors typically look for cards within his playing days, unique poses, or within a major set (e.g, 51 Topps Connie Mac), and this card has none of those. It's still a unique card so you should be able to get something for it.

As a fairly die hard type card collector the commemorative type cards don't really do it for me, most times. I think value would be no more than a few dollars on these....I don't think they are common either but they also lack the demand side of the equation so the value would be low.

[bcookie]

Originally Posted by Leon

As a fairly die hard type card collector the commemorative type cards don't really do it for me, most times. I think value would be no more than a few dollars on these....I don't think they are common either but they also lack the demand side of the equation so the value would be low.

since this is from 1951 and the known Brown & Bigelow cards are thought to have started in 1953, should these cards be a new entry in the card catalog?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by bcookie

since this is from 1951 and the known Brown & Bigelow cards are thought to have started in 1953, should these cards be a new entry in the card catalog?

I doubt a new entry and if anything there could be a blurb that might say **

"Cuban series thought to be from circa 1951."


If you have definitive proof the ones you have are from 1951 it might be worth passing the info on. There is still a ton of info to be had on many sets. Just a few minutes ago I sent OldCardboard a note asking if they want to update their 1912 Baseball Player Stamps with 4 uncataloged non-sports stamps from the series. best regards

[bcookie]

Originally Posted by Leon

I doubt a new entry and if anything there could be a blurb that might say **

"Cuban series thought to be from circa 1951."


If you have definitive proof the ones you have are from 1951 it might be worth passing the info on. There is still a ton of info to be had on many sets. Just a few minutes ago I sent OldCardboard a note asking if they want to update their 1912 Baseball Player Stamps with 4 uncataloged non-sports stamps from the series. best regards

sounds good. the only proof i have is that SGC is slabbing it as a " 1951-52 Brown & Bigelow Cuban League Schedule"

here is a link to the pop report http://67.90.59.68/sgcweb/PlayerDeta...cardsrl=392755

[Leon]

Originally Posted by bcookie

sounds good. the only proof i have is that SGC is slabbing it as a " 1951-52 Brown & Bigelow Cuban League Schedule"

here is a link to the pop report http://67.90.59.68/sgcweb/PlayerDeta...cardsrl=392755

Well, I certainly like SGC but my first question is how do they know what year?

[fkw]

Im fairly sure the year is just an estimate (guess), the company made this type of advertising stuff for many years, and still does...

Brown & Bigelow is a publishing company based in Saint Paul, Minnesota that produces advertising specialties, or promotional products, such as clocks, pens, cocktail spoons with corkscrew and cap-lifter, and advertising calendars. The company was founded in 1896.
In the late 1940s, it was one of the biggest calendar printers in the world.
(from Wiki page)
the company still exists today http://www.brownandbigelow.com

baseball collectors usually know the playing cards but they made alot of other things with the same painted baseball images, like blank cards that had advertising printed on back (or team schedules like yours), very similar to the 19th Century tradecards. They also made large calenders, address books, and a few other items with that same Ruth image. there are quite a few different types of images, from boy scouts to vargas girls, etc, most all from that Era are the same style of paintings (many well know artists)

your card would be scarce and would have a slight premium over a common playing card but wouldnt have great value IMO. the playing cards are very common and still often found in unopened decks.

here is an auction that shows a calendar and a Ruth Address Book
http://march11.hugginsandscott.com/c...l?itemid=31088

for a quick look at all the baseball related stuff they made, google images "Brown & Bigelow baseball calendar"
(take out the word "baseball" and you will see all the nudie gals stuff they made )
http://www.google.com/search?um=1&hl...0l0l0l0l0ll0l0

[triwak]

Perhaps I'm missing something here, but doesn't the back of the card have the 1951-52 schedule on it? Wouldn't that fairly certainly mean it was printed that season?

[bcookie]

Originally Posted by triwak

Perhaps I'm missing something here, but doesn't the back of the card have the 1951-52 schedule on it? Wouldn't that fairly certainly mean it was printed that season?

correct, that to me would date this 1951

[Leon]

Since the schedule is '51-'52 of course it is probably 1951. Everything pretty much stays the same....maybe a small premium, but very limited audience too.