something fishy help please

[pitchernut]

http://cgi.ebay.com/18-Different-191...d=p3286.c0.m14

Don't know how to add a link (maybe someone could help) with the above auction... any how seems fishy, can't be 1915 because the back aren't upside down, possible 1914's? all but one #62 match up for 1914's but... and they (specially the backs) just seem odd. any and all opinions would be appreciated. thanks

wow the link did work..cool

[GrayGhost]

Well, first thing, why so cheap on last day? I would say they may be repros, but can't tell looking at the scans.

[e107collector]

They sure look like reprints, look at the extremely white borders. Also, the borders are to wide to be the real deal. I would stay away.
Also red flags - estate sale, can't verify authenticity.

Just my two cents.

Thanks,
Tony

[Matt]

Agree with Tony. Repros.

[Leon]

I saw those a while back....I barely take 2 glances at poor fakes anymore....These look like poor fakes to me....

[terjung]

Bad '14 reprints in my opinion as well. The borders are too white and too wide. They should more closely match the uniform colors. The font doesn't look right either. Also, have you ever seen such a collection of warn '14 CJs without caramel staining? Not a chance in the world that those are real '14s or '15s.

-Brian

[pitchernut]

Kinda figured as much thanks for the input. I just love this board

[slantycouch]

The dimensions of those seem off to me for sure. And the colors aren't quite right. Guess that could be the scan, but as Brian said... no caramel staining?

I'd say bad all around.

[FrankWakefield]

Those don't just look like reprints, they are.


The backs have been tinkered with so that they look like they might be old. The back borders and front borders should look about the same, these don't. The fonts on the front are consistent with those of reprints.

Absolutely, definitely reprints.

[Rob D.]

I think they're reprints.

[tbob]

Absolutely reprints. The forgers just can't quite seem to get the color of the green grass right despite all their efforts. Plus, the backs have that fake stained tea/mildew looking discoloration to make them look old that I have seen on other fakes. Sigh. It was much easier in the old days when the forgers would smear dirt or other material on the backs or even run bicycle tires over them to leave a tread mark to make them look old, to spot the fakes but you can still tell. getting tougher, but these are a no brainer IMHO.

[fkw]

100% Reprints

The easiest way to tell is the uniform and border on many of the cards should blend together where they meet.

These reprints had the original border cropped and then a new white border added (the new border is always too white compared to the white areas of the picture) and also they needed to redesign a new caption (too dark and bold). They do this so when they rescreen the card in the reprint design they dont get a bunch of print dots in the white border.

Jennings is an easy one to see even in a small scan.