Crossover's and PSA

[Touch'EmAll]

Most of us have been there before - new email reads, "grades have been posted" - heartrate increases - you hit the link - hold your breath - grades displayed - SOB you damn PSA just not so!

I have other PSA 7's of the same year that do not stack up to the one I just submitted for crossover - I thought it was a 100% certain good crossover (otherwise I would not have wasted my time/money).

To promote their crossover service, PSA should state in writing one or two sentances why it did not meet the minimum grade. That way, collectors will not feel cheated as they have some specific reason why the no go. If PSA gave reasons, I am sure they would see a significant increase in crossover submittals = more income for PSA.

Er, does PSA not want more income?

steve

[Matt]

Originally Posted by 100backstroke

If PSA gave reasons, I am sure they would see a significant increase in crossover submittals = more income for PSA.
steve

I don't follow. Why would an explanation of why our card didn't cross over motivate you to submit more cards for cross-over? Now, if they approved all cards and even gave some bumps, then I could understand why you'd be excited about submitting others.

[smtjoy]

Sorry for your bad results. Were the cards still in slabs for CO or raw?

The only way to get a fair shake from PSA is to send them in raw. I have had 5 times (3 GAI and 2 SGC) where I sent in cards in slabs to be rejected for many reason only to crack and resubmit and they got the grade expected. From now on I only send them raw cards, what a scam.

One more reason SGC is tops, they are very fair on crossovers, they grade the card not the holder.

[Touch'EmAll]

Matt - if PSA gave legit reasons (albeit with a crossover rejection), collectors could then accept their reasoning as such and know they were true and honest about their grading standards and why they downgrade for any given flaw. Without reasons, lots of folks wonder if PSA decision is legit or not?

steve

edited - with legit reasons stated, I would send in more cards knowing I was getting a fair shake.

[Donavon]

I cannot agree more with Scott. If you want a fair shake with PSA, crack them & resubmit. Seeking a bump in a holder is almost always setting yourself up for disappointment when it comes to PSA.

[wolterse]

I just got some results from PSA:

I broke these out of their SGC slab and submitted raw:
SGC 20 Shag graded a PSA 2 (yipee)
SGC 30 Dahlen (brooklyn) graded a PSA 2
PSA 3 Keeler (portrait) graded a PSA 4 (yippee!!)

I kept this one in the case and submitted:
SGC 60 n2 indian chief crossed to a PSA 5

I was pretty happy with these results!!

[Jantz]

Steve - 100backstroke


Is this the first time PSA has done this to you?


Jantz

[egbeachley]

Originally Posted by wolterse

I just got some results from PSA:

I broke these out of their SGC slab and submitted raw:
SGC 20 Shag graded a PSA 2 (yipee)
SGC 30 Dahlen (brooklyn) graded a PSA 2
PSA 3 Keeler (portrait) graded a PSA 4 (yippee!!)

I kept this one in the case and submitted:
SGC 60 n2 indian chief crossed to a PSA 5

I was pretty happy with these results!!

It seems easier to get upgrades from PSA now. Possibly a revenue enhancer to make folks happy. But it is diluting the product and is the main reason why PSA sells for less $ than SGC for vintage cards.

[wolterse]

Originally Posted by egbeachley

It seems easier to get upgrades from PSA now. Possibly a revenue enhancer to make folks happy. But it is diluting the product and is the main reason why PSA sells for less $ than SGC for vintage cards.

It is easy to knock PSA given the small success I had 'crossing' over my T cards, but you wonder what would have happened if roles had been reversed. You can only speculate.

[cyseymour]

Originally Posted by egbeachley

It seems easier to get upgrades from PSA now. Possibly a revenue enhancer to make folks happy. But it is diluting the product and is the main reason why PSA sells for less $ than SGC for vintage cards.

I see scant evidence that PSA cards sell for less money, in fact due to the set registry they can sometimes sell for considerably more. Unfortunately we have a poster here, egbeachley, who likes to slander PSA and spread false rumors about their "going out of business" which is entirely fictitious, as well as mistruths about SGC cards selling for more money. One can prefer one grading company over the other without spreading lies and conjecture about the other one. This poster has a personal agenda to try to ruin PSA's reputation, perhaps due to an experience he had with them that he found to his disliking. That he would choose to compromise his personal integrity to spread lies and falsehood speaks far more about the legitimacy of the poster than the company he attempts to disparage.