COOPERSTOWN Show report & BB card pick-ups

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

The BB card Show last weekend was less attended than previous years' shows. This is attributable to this year's
lower attendance for the HOF ceremonies. It was estimated that only 14,000 saw Goose Gossage, Bowie Kuhn,
Walter O'Malley, Billy Southworth, and Dick Williams inducted into the HOF. Previous year's average crowds have
been 20-25K.

Here are some of the cards I acquired from "walk-ins" at the show........


Cut panels from T202 cards....including Ty Cobb







Arguably, the toughest 1934 Goudey Hi #....Hazen "KiKi" Cuyler (other than Lajoie)



And, 1934 Goudey Hi #....Billy Werber....who just turned 100 years old last month.



Two ORANGE T206's (Beckley & Devlin) and a PINK/ORANGE Kling



And, a T206 Ewing with a very rare PIEDMONT 350 back.



TED Z

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Posted By: Marty Kohler

Ted,..........Just wondered if you enjoyed a little dinner at the Blue Mingo? Nice spot down there that some aren`t aware of........

GO YARD

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Posted By: Marty Ogelvie

Thanks for sharing Ted.. loves those card pics, especially the KiKi Cuyler, i never see that card!

martyOgelvie
New York Yankee cards

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

MARTY K

I'm not aware of the Blue Mingo....where exactly is it ? There aren't too many really good restaurants
left in the Cooperstown area, anymore. We have been going there on HOF week since 1985 and every
year it seems like another fine dining place didn't survive the winter. There used to be many to choose
from. Our favorite restaurant these past 5 years is a little place in the tiny village of Fly Creek....just a
few miles north of Cooperstown.

Incidently Marty....Frank "Spec" Shea was the pitching consultant in The Natural.




MARTY O

You darn right about KiKi Cuyler. Years ago, when I put together a 1934 Goudey set, Cuyler was the
last card I needed to complete this set. I have seen Cuyler on many wantlists. I really do not under-
stand why he is tougher than the other 23 cards in the Hi # series ? All 24 Hi #s were printed equally
on a 25-card sheet, which included the 1933 Goudey Lajoie (card #106).

Can anyone out there explain why Cuyler is so tough to find ?


TED Z

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Posted By: Dave Hornish

Is the Shortstop Cafe still on Main St? They always had solid (and cheap) food.

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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

Hey Ted, Marty...

I don't have all of the 34 Goudey high number cards. Cuyler is one of the ones I lack. I don't think there's a shortage of his cards. I think that 2 factors tighten the supply. One, he's the only high number guy in the Hall. That is the major reason. Two, he was active in baseball after his career, coaching in the minors, winning a championship in the Southern Association, and coaching for the Cubs and Red Sox. I think to a lesser degree that adds to the number of folks who would have sought his cards.

So I think the 1934 Cuyler card sells for a premium above the other 1934 high number Goudeys... for those two reasons.

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Posted By: Marty Kohler

Ted,
The blue Mingo is a must..... very casual,.... on the water....... above average dinners and or lunches.... right across from the tower on Lake Otsego in Sam Smiths boatyard north of the village a few minutes on Rt 80.........


Dave,
The "Shortstop" is now under Mickey`s as the land lord of the original building apparently threw them out a couple of years ago.......It had been there for along time......

GO YARD

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Posted By: Alan

Ted,
I'm going to miss you at the National.

Best,
Alan

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

I'm going to miss all you guys, too. I definitely plan on being in Cleveland next year....the GOOD LORD willing.

TED Z

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Posted By: barry arnold

great cards, Trex.
i love the orange/ pink Kling!
no matter where you go the cards run to you, don't they?!!!

thanks for sharing,

best,

barry

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

It's interesting that you said this......
"no matter where you go the cards run to you, don't they?"

Since 1977, when I renewed my BB card collecting, I have been fortunate to find some very interesting cards
that I had wished for.....having thought I would never find.

And, I'm sure this true for many of us in this tremendous hobby.


TED Z

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Posted By: barry arnold

I know what you mean about wishes becoming reality.
I recently got a Drum from a great friend that I had been wishing for,
for many years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!

many thanks, TRex

best,

Barry

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

You've completed your 520-card T206 set....and, you have the 15 basic T-brand backs....so, what are you collecting nowadays ?

TED Z

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Posted By: barry arnold

Ted,
I'm mainly decorating the 206 room with my favorites and buying some great 206 era packs.
I think i'm up to 13 now.
I did make sure to do a display of cards from 1908-1915 to surround the beloved 206s with their 'buddy' years.
It's all great fun!
thanks for all your superb teaching.

best,
barry

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Posted By: Ed McCollum

if you ever decide to get rid of that Kling card, I would be very interested in it. Even though it doesn't fit my single-minded focus, from a purely aesthetic standpoint, that card is spectacular.

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

It's what us oldtimers would call...."TWO-TONE".

It is a neat looking card. For now, it is going into my T206 color error sub-set.




Best regards,

TED Z

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Posted By: Jim Parker

Ted Z,

Thanks for your contributions here - I know there are many like me that gain extensive knowledge by reading your great T206 posts. I enjoyed the Cooperstown experience on Saturday, and was glad to meet you at the show. Living only an hour away in Syracuse for the past 18 years, I can't believe I waited this long to visit Cooperstown during induction weekend.

Of course, the other big highlight was purchasing my very first T206 card from you. I don't know when I'll grab the next one, but may this be the start of a wonderful journey. Your back research has inspired me to focus solely on non-southern league Old Mill backs. Saves me the hardship of needing the big 6, and perhaps give me a chance to contribute some research to this great forum.

And Barry A: I know the Monster will want me to quit. I won't listen to it.

-Jim

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Posted By: barry arnold

Jim
It is certainly great to have you on the board in the wonderful world of
Monster studies!!!
And you are so right to have memorized the key Monsterian dictum---it will
give you the power to withstand the maneuverings and trickeries of the Monster.
all the best,

barry

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Posted By: Darren

Ted Z,

Love that Kling.

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Posted By: Joe Drouillard

Hello Everyone,

Just got back from vacation, part of which was Cooperstown on Induction weekend. Definately less crowded and the weather was great.

I did pick up a few Ts from Ted and from Don Flewelling. Nice cards at a fair price. I was introduced to Don by Ted and was very impressed by the number of T206s and other Prewar cards he had for sale. I could have really made a lot of headway on my T206 collection if I had more money to spend, but there is always next year. I really didn't have a lot of time to shop the other vendors, but the few things that I looked at were priced very high. I don't know how most vendors sell any 1950-1970 cards at 10% off book price.

Don suggested that the place to sell prewar baseball cards was antique auctions instead of baseball card shows. I thought that was interesting. He also said it was a great place to gain access to private collections for sale.

I also made a pretty good dent on my single sign HOF baseball collection. I only collect autographed baseballs that are signed in front of me. I added twelve more to the collection this weekend. I only need Yaz, Lasorda, Kaline, Dick Williams, Koufax, Niekro, Stargell, Ripken, Banks, MacPhail, and Robin Yount to have all of the living HOFers. I suppose several of these will be difficult to get in the future, I don't recall ever seeing Yaztremski on HOF weekend. At least he doesn't sign.

Visiting the Hall itself is always a lot of fun. This year we viewed the second floor on Friday and the main hall on Sunday. I asked to see the stuff in the basement, but they told me (with a chuckle)that I would have to move to the next membership level just to have a look from the top of the stairs. As to places to eat: There is a nice restraunt right on the Lake by the tour boat. They have great steaks for a resonable price. My wife and I had a great time eating, shopping and just being together in baseball's Mecca on the holiest weekend of the year. Overall, it was a great time and I would recommend the pilgrimage to any baseball fan.

Best wishes,

Joe

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

JOE D

Always a pleasure to help you with T206's; and, if I can't then I refer you to Don.

Don is also the COOPERSTOWN Show promoter......Don started this show in 1979.
A really great guy.

TED Z

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Posted By: Joe Drouillard

Hey Ted,

Have you ever seen Don's personal collection? Does he really have two Planks?

Best wishes,

Joe