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Posted By: bruce Dorskind
HOSTILE BID FOR TOPPS |
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Posted By: Cobby33
Although Eisner has already been ousted by the Disney folks, at least his group would have brought some new creativity into the modern market. With UD at the helm, all we're left with is more overpriced, overproduced junk, with few exceptions. |
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Posted By: davidcycleback
Amongst collectors of the modern, 'shiny' cards, a majority say Topps produces a better produce and has better quality control than Upper Deck. As one example, Topps has a representative present when the players sign the cards, which not all card companies have done. Upper Deck, on the other hand, is the one that can't fit the player's signature within the hole, and many collectors have had major problems with UD redemptions. Many have commented that UD doesn't appear to care about the collectors. |
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Posted By: peter chao
I would strongly prefer Eisner and Topps pairing up, that would be much more interesting than a market controlled by Upper Deck and their printing presses. Upper Deck has no idea of what a limited press run means. |
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Posted By: Chris Ahart
On one hand it would be nice to get some new blood in the hobby. On the other, I'm not sure Eisner backed by an investment firm would be into it for the long term. I've seen a few companies get bought by a group like the one interested in Topps. They all pretty much do the same thing after the purchase, trim down management & costs, increase margin, and sell in five to ten years for profit (kind of like the investment firm that has part ownership of Nebraska Book Company for those who track that kind of stuff). Long term growth is not the goal for this style of ownership. The goal for these guys is to make Topps look better on paper and flip for a profit. Not that there is anything wrong with that, it happens all the time. I just am not sure I like the idea of it happening to Topps as I collect vintage & modern cards. The modern card industry needs managed long term growth due to all of the different stuff out there fighting for kids (and adults) money. Trading cards gets nowhere close to the amount of money or time from kids as video games do. |
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Posted By: leon
That makes a lot of sense to me. I know Beckett got bought out and away goes a lot of the veterans. Veterans generally cost a little/lot more than new snotty nosed kids. (not that there's anything wrong with snotty nosed kids) Short term profit looks good...long term they could care less....just my 2 cents too.... |
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Posted By: peter chao
Upper Deck started with a great idea and then overdid it. Upper Deck started the premium card market and then flooded it with '89 Upper Deck cards. How many Ken Griffey Jr. #1s are there. It's got to be in excess of 5 million. They are going to do the same thing with memorabilia cards, there will be so many of them nobody will care. |
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Posted By: Bob
Michael Eisner did such a horrible job managing Disney that I'd rather see a class of 6th graders take over Topps for their school project, than this moron. Ask any Disney stockholder what they think about the "managing skills" of Eisner and you'll have to blush from the language. |
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Posted By: Bob C
Bruce this would be much more interesting if I had a dog in the fight. Unfortunately I do not own shares, calls or puts, if they exist, in Topps. |
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Posted By: WP
It seems like the UD bid was meant to stall the Eisner bid an is not a serious offer. |
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